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Making HD encode now. Definitely looks publishable so far.
rchokler wrote:
I used the older slower TAS for this analysis so that I don't ruin the faster TAS, but it applies to the faster TAS too.
You realize you can just make a copy of a file, and then mess around with the copy without ruining the original, right?
edit: (still processing)
Link to video
Yes vote from me, by the way. I think it's entertaining enough, and the play quality looks solid.
I'm probably in a minority here, though. I was also strongly in favor of publishing the Solomon's Key II (Fire 'n Ice) run, and that one got canceled. This one's more exciting than that one. It's fun to see puzzles with a 3 minute time limit get solved in barely over a second.
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Zanoab wrote:
There seems to be a timing error in the commentary (I have no idea if it was intentional or not).
In the YT stream at ~39:27, "Quote can open this door because I read the letter (in Ma Pignon's room)." would do better at ~39:37. The subtitles afterwards seems to sync with the movie correctly.
Nitsuja actually mentioned that to me in PM, but I haven't gotten around to fix that yet. Will try to do that tonight.
edit: just fixed it.
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Feel free to make an encode for your own purposes if you want to, but I'm making one too. :) At least, one for Youtube.
rchokler wrote:
I already finished making that file. However, I posted that I need help with handing it in. I was then given a link to microstorage.php where I placed the new file so the file replacement will likely happen soon.
Microstorage.php is just a storage site. You still need to post the download link to the input file. (We don't actually monitor what's uploaded there.)
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PikachuMan wrote:
There seems to be a little problem with the movie counter. 1916 was skipped for no reason.
That might have been because this is the first Windows submission, and something went wrong while updating the site to include that as a category. So 1916 would be the broken publication that later got deleted.
edit: see http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12069
edit: okay, so apparently this post of mine got merged into another topic. It used to be in another topic where the answer hadn't already been given, so that's why I'm stating the obvious here. (I'm not normally that daft, honest.)
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Check out this speedrun by Peter Horvath for an honorable mention:
Link to video
At 0:25 he performs a quad damage grenade jump.
Doesn't qualify, of course.
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I made some other screenshots, but I see nitsuja already posted one. We usually follow the author's lead with regard to screenshots.
Here are mine, I like #2:
http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/cs_scr/
edit: Suggested description:
Cave Story, made by Pixel in 2004, is a famous freeware indie game notable for being made entirely by one person.
Watch as nitsuja completely destroys this difficult game with amazingly precise movement. This playthrough saves Curly and finishes with the best ending after beating Ballos.
The program used to make this run, Hourglass, was also developed by him—with the creation of this run in mind. As such, it is our first published run of a Windows game. The encodes also contain commentary subtitles by the author in case you want to read along.
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nitsuja wrote:
Data wrote:
nitsuja wrote:
but I think I figured out how to make the game use a more correct font. Standby for more info on that...
Oh, and the regular encode (non Youtube) will have the correct font.
I guess you figured out that the font should be "MS Gothic", and found a way to set it to that? (Just checking that we came to the same conclusion. I think I'll make future versions of Hourglass automatically use that as the default/system font when the locale being simulated is set to Japanese.)
I believe you mean MS ゴシック ;)
And yeah, I was able to set it by changing the system language to Japanese which also changes the default encoding type for applications that don't use the Unicode APIs. (I think to Shift-JIS.)
edit: looks like publication will be delayed a little, we're having some problems getting the file to mux properly, causing glitches in VLC Player.
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nitsuja wrote:
Note to encoders: Hourglass r77 has a bug with AVI splitting (if you dump a >2GB AVI) that could randomly drop a few frames of video and/or audio at segment boundaries. This should be fixed in Hourglass r78, so I suggest using it instead of r77. There are no other differences between the two versions besides that fix. Oh, but I think I figured out how to make the game use a more correct font. Standby for more info on that...
My dump just barely has a split (2.3GB for the raw dump), but I went and checked and found no evidence of dropped frames, thankfully.
Oh, and the regular encode (non Youtube) will have the correct font. I would have fixed the Youtube encode too, but since so many sites were already linking to it I figured it might be better to keep it the way it is.
Thanks for the final version of the comments, I'm going to implement them. We'll probably be ready for publication tonight.
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Yeah, it's unfortunate but a lot of TAS tools, in fact pretty much all of them, are made for Windows. That's the way it is. I'm a Mac user too, and although I only do encoding it's very useful to have a VM around.
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Open question for whomever wants to answer it: is Turska's yuv444 encode usable for publication? As I recall this would be our first encode using this colorspace. Personally I don't know how well it's supported.
If we can use his encode, I'll stop working on mine. Then we just need the 512kb encode for the Internet Archive, so I can just start working on that one instead.
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Nota bene: since nobody seems to be working on an SD encode, I'll make it. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
edit: basic encode is nearly done. After that 512kb.
[88.9%] 125359/141088 frames, 4.11 fps, 1469.73 kb/s, eta 1:03:48
edit: wasn't entirely happy with the file size so I've lowered the quality and added some more expensive settings. redoing it now.
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nitsuja wrote:
By the way, I made some subtitles that can be viewed along with the TAS. This is not for translation, but for explaining each trick in (some) detail as it comes up. Actually, it's not done yet, but I thought I'd mention it now. The timestamps currently match up with my own encode but I'm sure they could be offset for something else.
Very nice! I just added that to the video and it seems to work really great. I did need to change one thing, though, the second subtitle (where you mention having to jump constantly) was merged with the one after that, and the timings changed slightly, otherwise they would have gotten in the way of the hardsubbed TASVideos disclaimer.
Let me know if you finish it. When I added Pirohiko's commentary for his FF3j run I got a lot of positive feedback, so I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate this.
(It would be particularly nice if someone could translate it to Japanese, given the amount of interest they have in this game too.)
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We've been through this. The language he chose is fine. The arguments are very clear here, and we've got a good enough historical precedent. This should not be considered an issue.
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arflech wrote:
Dada wrote:
arflech wrote:
When do the subtitles start in Dada's encode?
I haven't added any subtitles. If someone could give them to me, I'd gladly do so.
Wait, I think I know what you meant that the video now has "proper subtitles"; you meant the informational text about the run itself, not a translation of the speech and info dialogs.
Oh, I actually realized that right after I posted my reply. I was going to edit my post, but I apparently forgot.
Yes, the run now has the proper subtitles. The other one I uploaded that didn't have them has been set to unlisted. Some sites might still link to that old one, so make sure to check that if you can't see them (they show up during the first scene, and in First Cave).
edit: who's working on the regular encode? At this time I don't think anyone is. I'm pretty busy with work but if nobody's going to pick this up, I'll do the regular encode this weekend.
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I'm not the judge, so my opinion doesn't really count in this matter, but I'd be more inclined to give it a "best ending" tag if I had ever seen a speedrun that doesn't go through Sacred Grounds at the end. I've literally never seen one, nor heard of anyone doing one. It would make more sense to have this, and an "easy ending" run, if it ever becomes necessary. (I doubt anyone will ever make a TAS that doesn't go through Sacred Grounds, though.)
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arflech wrote:
When do the subtitles start in Dada's encode?
I haven't added any subtitles. If someone could give them to me, I'd gladly do so. I got a lot of positive feedback when I uploaded Pirohikoさん's FF3j run with author's comments subtitles.
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Two questions: right before you hitchhike a lift on that flying creature (before Sue gets beat up by Igor), would it be possible to manipulate it so that the creature flies a bit lower, allowing you to move even further into the level?
Also: in Hell, after the first boss, if you allow yourself to get hit (and invulnerable), you can clip through the hole in the ground (the part of the ground that's about to collapse), before the big block falls through. I suppose there's no enemy around to get the invulnerability from?
edit: that's a lot of rerecords by the way :) 269327 in total.
