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Kirkq wrote:
Personally, I am not particularly impressed by most of the hacks that currently exist on the site. We currently have 3 separate hacks of Super Mario Bros by the way, and every single hack on the site is a 2-D game. Given that this is a 3-D hack I am currently under the opinion that this is actually pretty well done. Why do others think this is a bad hack? Can anyone show me a hack of any 3-D console game from around this era (N64, Playstation, etc.) that meets the standards you guys are expecting?
Could someone try to make the argument why this hack could've been done better without an unreasonable extra ten thousand more hours of labor. I feel like either many people in this thread have an unreasonable expectation for the potential of 3-D hacks, or I am unaware of the potential of 3-D hacks.
I echo the sentiments that a 0-star run probably doesn't show off enough of the game to provide an accurate depiction of the hack's potential. Even if the hack is good enough, should the 0 star run of it be published? I don't know. To my knowledge, we've never really published a 100% run without also allowing the corresponding (somewhat entertaining and well defined) any% run.
The run itself seems done well enough that I would vote to publish it were it not a hack. The game being a hack, I don't really know what standards or precedents to compare it to.
Whether one exists or not doesn't make this hack suddenly good. It needs to be a good hack on its own merits. I'm not saying whether the level design is good or not, but just from what I was able to see (which wasn't very much), the levels weren't aesthetically pleasing. If you want to talk about a really well done hack, I would immediately point to SDW. So what if it is for a 2-d game? It illustrates what a hack should have in terms of level design.
Why should the community care about this hack in particular? Does it have great level design? If so, this run doesn't really show it. Does it have new and interesting things that weren't in the original game? If so, this run doesn't really show them. Perhaps a full 100% completion of the hack would be worthy of being published, but a run shouldn't be published just because it's a hack.
Also here are the site rules regarding hacks
Hacked and homebrew games
Hacked games are allowed for submission. However, they go through more scrutiny than other games. This is because the hack itself is under judgment. It must be a quality hack and have an audience following. It must be a quality TAS on its own merit but also must show something interesting compared to other games of the same game engine.
Note here, I would argue that it doesn't show anything "interesting" compared to the 0 star SM64 run. Its the same run with very minor differences.
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DarkKobold wrote:
I voted meh. It seems like they just smacked pieces on a map.
I agree with this nerd, cept I voted no. The level design looks really ugly (perhaps this is remedied in the other levels) and this run isn't different from the 0 star 64 run in any notable way.
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Voting yes cause Randil
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Kitsune wrote:
Is this a 100% TAS?
Only reason I can think of you're saving all the toads.
No, it's an any% run. There's also a very valid reason I'm saving all the toads. Cause I need to in order to complete the game?
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ALAKTORN wrote:
I don't know anything about the game, but it often looks like you don't use the crying to its full extent? as I understand it, the bar on the top left is how much you can use it, and it often keeps some 'energy'
other than that, this TAS made me want to play the game lol
edit: it also looks like you're not turning the other way as soon as you fired a charged shoot to a Toad
There is a good reason for that. If you hit a toad box and its too far away from peach. The screen will span away form her and then span back, which cost a significant amount of frames. So I have to hit the box from as far away as possible without letting that happen.
As for using the crying, sometimes it costs too many frames to use and then stop it. It only makes peach run 50% faster, so the distance she runs has to be long enough to compensate for the lost frames.
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No, as it's just a WIP and I don't have the programs installed anymore.
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ok
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Bad news: I forget
i.e. just playing, no bad news =D
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GoddessMaria15 wrote:
Upon interesting discovery, sort of, I found out that once you jump after sliding down a slope, you won't have to lose speed while moving/jumping. It works in quite a similar manner to SMW.
If you watch the WIPS, you'll see I use this extensively already.
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Mitjitsu wrote:
Catdog, Hey Arnold! and Dexter's Lab.
Dexter's Lab was Cartoon Network newb!!!
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DarkKobold,
What do you have against people having fun that doesn't bother others, except you apparently?
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DarkKobold,
What happened to you as a child to want to ruin everyone else's fun because you're not enjoying it?
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DarkKobold,
Why do you hate individualism?
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Guy with the Glasses
Whats your favorite movie?
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Dear Moozooh,
What are you working on now?
Deign
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Kirkq wrote:
Brushy, how do you feel about the current quality of this year's April Fools submissions as of the time of your reply to this post.
Also, which is more legendary? -- Color a Dinosaur, or Desert Bus.
Color a Dinosaur, cause it was my idea =D
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How do you feel about necroing threads?
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I vote we turn this topic into a sandbox of just post whatever random crap you want =D
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AngerFist wrote:
Motherfucka I am AngerFist bitch! you better recognize fool!
Your fist seems quite mellow to me AF. How's your sister?
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I won't answer any questions. I'm not here!
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[19:17] <adelikat> I try to remain impartial on gender
[19:17] <Jixie> yeah I'm not losing sleep over it either
[19:17] <Jixie> swing both ways eh?
[19:17] <Jixie> -------=======/o/
[19:17] <Jixie> new sig quote ldo
[19:17] <adelikat> dammit.
[19:18] * adelikat dies.wav
[19:18] <Jixie> :D
[19:21] <adelikat> I've been quoted with worth I suppose
[19:21] <Jixie> is that "worse" in camelflouge?
[19:21] <adelikat> like that
[19:22] <Deign> <adelikat> once more balls enter the picture, everything gets a lot more entertraining
[19:23] <adelikat> that inneundo was intentional though
[19:23] * Deign doesn't care
[19:23] <Deign> =)
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[19:24] <adelikat> there quote that
[19:25] * Deign does
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So this thing is dead now?
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Also not doing this one as it's more complicated than it's worth
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