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Ehrm .... can't get it to run on any Gens version I have .... which ROM is being used? It looks screwed on Bare Knuckle 3 and on Streets of Rage 3, but both start the game in an optimized way O.o
EDIT: now I could see, and it's so incredible, someone HAS to complete it ._.
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I asked because I was almost sure I already saw it before, a gym leader with only 1 pokemon at the start of a duel =P or maybe it was a legendary battle in the end ...
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Ok, first we had this:
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6800
And I even said a few words about how luck manipulation could make it much faster =P
- you can jump shots and knifes without turning around or even stop going right...
- bosses go down pretty quick with the right special... (2a 2b 3b 4a 4b with the two-direction, and 3a 5a 5b with the fire)
- grenade, flying, and ninja enemies can be completely ignored...
- in the end of each stage (before the boss) there is that part where you have to clear the screen from enemies, this would be the saddest part...
I already beat the current "TAS" by almost one minute (done it three times), but before starting a TAS, I should know ... if it's worth the try, if people would like be see this game TASed for probably 9:30 at best.... ? It would be my first TAS ever =P
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Ok, major improvements to you:
3b-4a: you can change to falcon after killing the boss, instead of waiting for the next stage to come up =P
5a: you don't need to kill the bosses, you just need to make them fall from their rails ... actually, it can look really incredible to overpass the big guys and defeat only their supports =P
4a: if you're not using the proton cannon, you shouldn't get it (or maybe I failed to realize where you used it?)
1a: having that much of enemies on the screen is creating delays and lags, I think =P
3a: did you check the order the generators fall for a better route? o.o
Otherwise, nice job with the plasma shots, they're the most effective weapon against stage 5 & 6's enemies, ... or maybe it could be worth to try the proton cannon on stage 6 since it recharges so fast? =P
Lastly, do you really need to throw out all your continues like that? Or do they count as lives in this game? XD
EDIT: Sorry, I wasn't commenting the current version ... but I stand right on most items on the list o_o
2b: is it really faster to go through the stage ignoring the enemies?
5a: can you reach Eos after stage completion to change to Plasma earlier instead of slowing it out on 5b? =P
Oh, 5a: is it really faster to kill the bosses? =P My idea of making them suicide is still possible, I think ...
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It's a few steps on the Burger stage and a little more on the hospital to get the scissors, .. and probably some 30 seconds to go through the last stage, I'll see how the current TAS defeats enemies to see how faster it can be, 30 seconds is a rough estimate =P
EDIT: the burger scene can be done in less than one second, the current video goes around it...
EDIT2: seeing the performance in the highschool stage, I think it really can obsolete the current movie =P
EDIT3: oh yeah! There is the cat too, scissors and cat, the cat is just one more fishing with the pizza as bait if I'm not mistaken =P
EDIT4: route:
- Burger World (get rat, rotten burger, put password, get fries, headset, serve guy, get gwar1)
- The Hospital (get scissors, race, get gwar2)
- The Street (go through sewer, get duck, get gun, get bone, go back, get saw, get gwar3)
- Turbo Mall 2000 (get snake, pack it, get gwar4 under bird, get oil, get soap, sell items, throw snake, get gwar5, get gwar6 at laundry)
- Drive-In (throw bomb, get picture, get gwar7)
- Highland High School (get AB potion, go all the way for gwar8, get thing)
- Couch Fishing (use thing to get gwar9, use pizza to get cat)
- GWAR Concert (use cat, go through the dudes, use scissors, true ending)
Did I forget something? x_x
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*so many years later*
Anyone for a 100%, true ending game? It would cost just a little more seconds to eat a burger, get sick and grab the scissors, I guess =P
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This has definately some new moves to show, and the true ending, and true last stage, and true final boss ... of course it is a Yes, although it is a little strange that the speed is not thaaaaat much of an improvement ..? Ok, some seconds mean a lot around here... XD
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Another Meh for you.
I just think it needs some improvements yet, otherwise, it's really funny to watch a pacifist game, you know, it's not the cowboy style, but it's "ninjaer" =P
If you improve what's been already said in this thread, maybe the pacifist run won't be much seconds slower than the 2 player speed run ^^
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Here is a list from me, games I had/have and probably would look good TASed:
Blast Chamber
Command and Conquer (NOD version especially)
NIGHTS
Shockwave Assault
Space Hulk
Ok, it's not a big list... =P
EDIT: Of course! Virtual On! \o/
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It runs on Dega 1.15 here..
I don't think this game is TASable, because even doing a great work dodging enemies, both auto scrolling stages are too long and repetitive, ... most voters would say no because of that =P
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Oh yeah, Post Alex Kidd and a thousand people come, but Quartet?
I don't see any reason to vote No, except it's doesn't run on the japanese version ... and I don't see a logic on that order you defeat the enemies in Round 4, ... otherwise, it's a great video! =P
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You never know when the perfect weapon for a job will be ... a panther.
There is some variety and some bugs (what did you do to the last knights on stage 7??) so,... I voted Yes.
And it would be way more repetitive with 1 player...
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Hogs of War - impossible shots, perfect use of mortars, sharpnel grenades, throwing enemies on the water or mine fields... has anyone thought of that? Please =)
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Is this the right topic for wishlist yet? Ok, let me see.... I've posted this in another forum, and now I'm bringing it back to the right place =P it's in portuguese, but I'll only comment anyway...
Alguns de Master System =P
Double Dragon (2 players)
Captain Silver
Castle of Illusion (humanamente eu já fiz uns 28 minutos, com certeza pode ser bem melhor)
Land of Illusion (humanamente uns 36 minutos)
Spider-Man vs the Kingpin (o jogo já proporciona um tempo limite pra tudo mesmo)
Ys (tem momentos q sobrehumano seria ideal, então)
E-SWAT
Zillion (o caminho mais curto daquele labirinto? eu sei q não salva Apple nem Champ)
Fantasy Zone (1 e 2) =P
Alex Kidd in Miracle World (meu record já tá baixando de 16 minutos humanos, quem sabe eu mesmo não aprendo a fazer TAS e mudo isso pra uns 10) =P
Ok, so, Double Dragon seems a little repetitive but many people would like to see a 2-player run especially when they're never hit by enemies, and sometimes hit by the partner =P
Captain Silver is a really unkown game, and not that fast paced, but we can attack and still be at full speed while in air =P
Land of Illusion has it's bugs and shortcuts, so it shouldn't be hard =P
Spider-man vs the Kingpin is a really quick game, or maybe another version would be too much?
Ys would be much quicker with the right manipulations... XD
E-SWAT already had a first try around here, it only needs tons of luck manipulation and be shot-accurate...
Zillion would be quicker not saving Apple and Champ, but maybe the TAS would be more interesting saving them?
Fantasy Zone games are really good for turbo-shooting...
Also, there is Running Battle, there is an item SR which probably means SpeedRun =P
And... Castle of Illusion and Alex Kidd in MW are already TASed, so, that's about it..
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Well, let me see =P I'm not a TASer, but I've played so much, so many Master System games, maybe I know some more unique shortcuts ...
I always wanted to enshorten Flash's 4-2 stage, but seems like the switch is really needed there +_+
I didn't have any problem with loading and saving, because I just played the game until I've reached your run-point on 3-2, and fought the boss just to remember what else is added to the car in each stage ... the next fights with him will probably be as easy as that because with some luck manipulation, I believe the boss can throw much less shots that you need to jump to avoid =P (I'm used to fight him starting on taking out that wheel because it's much more difficult when the main shots and the wheel alternate fire, I believe)
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May the lurker here say something? I've found a shortcut on stage 3-1, which leads to finish without pressing the switch, reaching the exit from the left =P
I don't know how to add a file to my post here yet, but I will XD
and I've learned before submitting:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/850265334/Flash3-1shortcut.mmv
I didn't play from the start, just used dega 1.15 ... if I was to record from the start I would be losing 4 lives and 1 continue during the process of beating stage 2 =P
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But it's strange that three years have passed and no one finished & posted the 2 player run yet,... maybe I'll start one myself, and in 2012 it will be ready =P
