For example I interpret the question as being...
Do you think the movie was good,fun to watch and should it be published?
In this instance for me it was no to all these parts.
That's fine, but understand that you're not in the majority here. I'm not sure what your take on the "entertainment" category on the whole is, but understand the basic idea of majority rule. A video with this kind of voting record, if it was a speed video, is probably not of high enough quality to publish. However, when we're looking a video made purely to entertain, we have to look at it much differently; 30 yes votes and 10 no votes would likely indicate an achievement of the goal: to entertain. If it was like that on a speed video, it would likely mean that it entertained but had a lot of problems and could probably be redone much better.
I'm not sure how I got started on this rant so I'll stop here.
A new category for videos might spice up the submissions overall; making players optimize for entertainment as opposed to frame-perfection may entice some new users to start TASing.
No way, its fastest possible or nothin.
Is this sarcasm?
No, its not.
Okay. I had a string of insults here but I think I'll surpress the side of me with my head in my hands to remind you that the life blood of these kind of sites is CONTENT. Entertainment is subjective, but arguably more important than speed. Most people agree on this, yet we get lots of boring as fuck, but very fast videos published. I'm not sure what's more important; a video that entertains 60-80% of the community despite having non-speed goals or a dreadfully boring video that while technically accurate, is not at all entertaining to watch and at best only appeals to those who play the game itself.
I dunno about you, but I'm willing to throw the dice a few times on entertainment videos.
Of course, not everyone will like them, but from what I can see, more people would like this kind of video than say, a speed run of Dark Castle. Here we are, still publishing 6 frame time savers on really shitty, boring games that honestly no one wants to see, and yet there's a debate about whether a video that is entertaining to 60-80% of the community is worth publishing or not. Unbelievable.
EDIT: Clarification - I believe the "shitty, boring games" SHOULD have their speed runs published. After all, the site, by precedent, is based around speed runs and every game, no matter how junky (okay, there might be some exceptions to that) should have a high quality tool-assisted speed run published. Period. My qualm is specifically with how the site emphasises that they want to focus more on entertainment than frame-perfection (correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen, the "entertainment" category on voting on a rating seems to have more weight than "technical quality" category when it comes to calculating the overall rating) [see - DKC2 run. A few frames were sacrificed in order to show off a strange quirk in Krow's Nest, which was one of my favourite parts of the whole run].
I'm not so annoyed with people who believe that this should be a speed run site first and foremost. I might in fact even be in said boat. It's the closed minded, staunch opposition to anything that isn't either a fastest speed or a "concept demo" [see - Air] that really gets me; the sheer rejection of a "non-speed entertainment" category on the whole that gets me. Consider this:
The entertainment category would take away nothing AWAY from the site. If you don't like it, ignore it. Speed runs will still be the focus. If entertainment videos turn out to be a novelty fad, they'll fade away and they'll be done and gone. I'm not sure what the NEGATIVE of the whole category is in the first place. If you can present one, I'll take it in to consideration. For now, I just don't see the issue. At all.
A new category for videos might spice up the submissions overall; making players optimize for entertainment as opposed to frame-perfection may entice some new users to start TASing.
Seriously, it's annoying to see people complaining about improvements to games. Considering that this run doesn't remove entertainment value from the previous version, there's no reason to complain.
You know what else is annoying? Seeing the same motherfucking game ran 2 seconds faster than the previous version.
You say that now, but you haven't seen me super amazing (and entertaining) SMB3 run yet! You sir, will be so shocked and amazed that you will eat your hat!
I totally baffled why you are trying to publish this run on the site adelikat. Something like this belongs somewhere like youtube. There are already PLENTY of similar videos on youtube.
How many versions of each game do you want on the site? How many versions of 'play around' runs per game do you want? How are you going to even deal with all of those?
What is stopping me of making a TAS with 5 savestates of me 'having fun' and goofing around in SMB3 and submitting it?
Ok, if I did, and it make some people laugh because of my 'body language' with Mario? It gets published? What if someone else then does the very similar thing? Are you just going to publish theirs along side?
Are we just going turn the site into a TAS machinima site?
I think there's a decent line of what's interesting and goofy and what's just stupid. Playing around in SMB3 is just stupid. This is interesting and goofy and is a good showoff for what the game is about (being interesting and goofy).
Not all games have the capacity for this playaround. You can do very few "neat" things in SMB3, or most games for that matter.
Okay, I have one question: why the HELL did you guys include the glitching? Is there anyone who thought it was entertaining?
Yes, I found it entertaining as well as JXQ. I think a few others in the thread expressed appreciation for it. Those who do are obviously in the minority but that doesn't mean no one did.
The main point is that we loved the decisions in this movie as therefore why they are inlcuded. We made the movie because we enjoyed it, had a lot of fun, and thought the end prodcut was very good. We are sharing it here in hopes some others will like it too.
The glitching was entertaining, for the first 10-15 seconds, I think most people would agree. However, the fact that you kept it going for as long as you did made it quickly go from entertaining to highly annoying.
But... it is a TAS.
Tool-Assisted: Yes, obviously.
Superplay: Yes, this is a superplay. It shows off a lot of things that are probably impossible or incredibly difficult in real time, hence making it "superplay."
When are we going to get over the fact that "superplay" != "speedrun?"
RCR is one of those classic lame overly rated games with a couple of minor memorable things. Firstly there is too much travelling not enough fighting and the fighting itself is lame comared to the likes of Double Dragon, Final Fight and Streets of Rage. While this movie is twice as slow as the current one I certainly wasn't twice as entertained infact compared to the current one I was less entertained. I would have given the other one a 5 for entertainment but this one gets a 3 from me. The additional glitches were horrible and the game lags far more.
Mortal Kombat shows off various stuff and cool quirks and does not blantant and needslessly waste time
This movie is nothing more than a pride movie playing for ego so 'no' vote.
I dunno. I had never played nor saw a RCR video and I thought this was pretty comedic. The way the characters react is really the way it works. The way they set up back and forth beat downs, throwing junk, throwing each other, etc, I think it's MORE entertaining than DD, FF or SoR. In those games it really seems to just be punching.
Again, there is zero goal of speed, so wasting time isn't really a valid argument. Is speed absolutely required in your eyes for it to be entertaining? If so, this video is absolutely not for you and while you can still vote, just keep in mind that it's in vain, is misguided, and you're probably just gaining the scorn of others.
Entertaining. Yes vote.
What bugged me was the major glitching at the end. It's cute for a few seconds but when it lasts that long, it just becomes annoying.
EDIT: At the risk of starting a debate (please don't), I would just like to say that if you're unsure about publication of this video, understand that this is tool assisted superplay, not speedruns. This is superplay. The video aims for entertainment over speed and while entertainment is subjective and speed is not, the concensus is that this is an entertaining video. This means it achieved its goal, and is entertaining* and therefore should be published. Optimization isn't really a valid argument as much, as you can't really "optimize**" entertainment.
What I think this site needs is a speed run supertype and an entertainment supertype. It would open the flood gates for all sorts of videos that are still entertaining but not as frustrating/annoying/difficult to make.
* I realize how it looks like I'm repeating myself, but if this were a speed video, saying that would be important. I'm just trying to remove some ambiguity from my post.
** Okay, so you have to optimize the stunts/shenanigans/whatever to make them look good, but I don't think the frame-perfection of them really matters.
Really, give me a robust, honest, and logical argument for believing in god, and I promise I will think about it.
Instead of arguments I give you 2 proofs:
Proof #1. you are god, therefore god exists.
Proof #2. we can't explain things, therefore god is the only thing left that can explain them. For example: why is there something instead of nothing? Answer: god made it.
and as I have found out, all of them are refuted by relatively simple deductions and Occam's razor .
Buy a new razor. If you shave off enough of anything you will find god, nothing, ignorance, creator, source.
Really, give me a robust, honest, and logical argument for believing in god, and I promise I will think about it.
Instead of arguments I give you 2 proofs:
Proof #1. you are god, therefore god exists.
Proof #2. we can't explain things, therefore god is the only thing left that can explain them. For example: why is there something instead of nothing? Answer: god made it.
I was going to say that this incident was a complete and total accident, but these numbers just reek of a conspiracy. I'm going to leave it to somebody else to fill in the details.
The increase in human knowledge is explained by neither Lamarckian nor Darwinian evolution. It amazes me how so many people equate intelligence with knowledge.
Without knowledge, how intelligent can you be?
Information makes us more intelligent and creates neuro-passageways in the brain that are then passed down from generation to generation via the genes.
The Bible has so many flaws and inaccuracies and is completely unreliable.
If the Bible is an infalliable source of truth, once you find just one fallacious statement or line, the integrity of the entire document comes in to question.
I see we've moved to the classic appeal to authority vs ad hominem debate.
Um, what? I fail to see how this is either and the line goes for anything: if it claims to be an infalliable source of knowledge and any part of it is found to be fallacious, then the accountability of the rest of it is jeopardized, whether it's a religious text, scientific text or anything.
So many miracles happened in the Bible that just do not occur today. Where did they all go?
Miracles are reported on a regular basis. Most to all such reports are rejected ad hoc with little-to-no investigation or publicity, precisely because they're not supposed to happen. If you try to compare this to the Bible, a condensed account of many centuries' miracles, you're facing an enormous sampling bias.
Most of the miracles today are amazing rescues, unexpected healings, or other things that could be documented and researched scientifically or are simply just very lucky. I don't see water becoming blood, talking animals, people becoming salt pillars or people coming from the dead and ascending to heaven today.
Where are the mythical beasts in the world today?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Please expand.
I don't know. Giants, unicorns, talking animals. Things like that. (Yet, they managed to miss the dinosaurs. Hmm)
Why doesn't God speak to people today?
God does speak to people today. A significant fraction of evangelical Christians rely on divine revelation for day-to-day life.
Power of suggestion. If you actually believe you're talking to God, you will likely get responses. These are made up in your brain. People in every deistic religion speak to their God. Are they all correct? I doubt it very much so. It is most likely that it's all in their head.
Why isn't he destroying Brighton and Hove? I could go on for a long time about it, but that isn't necessary.
If you are drawing an allusion to Sodom and Gomorrah, you ought to check out the appropriate passage first.
(Genesis 18:25-32)
I find it highly improbably that there are fewer than ten serious Christians in the city.
Um, what? Brighton and Hove has over a quarter million citizens. Are you to tell me that a total of 0.00004% of the inhabitants are Christian? A quick look in to the 2001 census says that 146,466 people there identified as Christian. That's not "ten or fewer." I suggest you not call an ad hominem on me then follow up with one right back.
EDIT: Well, crap, I misread the last one. I'll leave it in there anyways, even though it's irrelevant. :P
As I said above, the events recorded in the Bible ought to be sufficient evidence to put the ball back in the Atheists' court.
Even if I were to somehow provide a logically rigorous proof, I do not think you would accept it. In my experience, atheists hold the non-existence of God to be axiomatic.
The Bible has so many flaws and inaccuracies and is completely unreliable. Take the flood, for example. It was supposedly worldwide, but Chinese and Egyptian historical documents are unbroken during this time. How do you explain that?
If the Bible is an infalliable source of truth, once you find just one fallacious statement or line, the integrity of the entire document comes in to question. So many miracles happened in the Bible that just do not occur today. Where did they all go? Where are the mythical beasts in the world today? Why doesn't God speak to people today? Why isn't he destroying Brighton and Hove? I could go on for a long time about it, but that isn't necessary.
Gott ist tot. Ball back to you.