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...Would the plural be Kirbys or Kirbies? o.O Either way, I'm also quite looking forward to seeing what you can do with this game. I haven't played it but it looks very unique.
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This run is absolutely incredible. There is no real question on if this run would be published, the only real question would be agreeing on a way to sort the individual games for the final encode. (Personally, I'd be in favor of X1, X2 // Data, X3) As for a nice screenshot, I think something from fighting all three final bosses simultaneously would be interesting. Or at least some sort of screenshot where all three games are fighting a boss at the same time.
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I really doubt anything like this would be accepted, but it might make Gruefood Delight. o.o Just too erratic to be entertaining to watch, though.
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So this is what happens when Fox has a hyperactive sugar rush. Extremely entertaining, the way you blasted through All-Star Mode. My only real complaint is not playing through the credits. ^.~ Obvious Yes vote.
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How do I vote for a run like this? It's obviously a very high-quality run; the playing is superb, the tricks used are interesting, and it manages to make a difficult hack look easy. ...But there's the problem. It's a Kaizo run. These are runs not meant to be played by unassisted players, their very design requires absurd amounts of, at least, savestate usage to be within the realm of beatable. It really kind of defeats the purpose of TASing a run, if the run being TASed can't realistically be completed without TAS. It's not really pushing the game to its limits if the usage of tools is in the basic design parameters of the game. Despite the run's entertainment, trying to TAS a game like this just feels like it defies one of the basic tenants of this website. It's not a superplay. It's just a play. Kaizo hacks really don't stand out on their own very well. They're not (realistically) beatable by humans alone, they're not noticeably divergent from their base games, and they would give a very bad impression to anyone who played one but not the original. I really can't vote in favor of this game. But, to honor the attempt made on the run, I'll vote "Meh".
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Yeah, it'd take a few frames to input a required "owner verification" code. But for the purposes of game accuracy, it's required, and nevertheless a better option than the alternative: using a crack that risks introducing unknown bugs and variances into the game. At the very least, we'd need to make sure that, if we use a cracked version, that the same inputs result in the same actions for given situations regardless of version, and that the only actual difference is the lack of copy protection.
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At this point in time, I'm almost convinced that this run will be ground down into frame perfection. And then someone will devise a new route that does something crazy and unbelievable that noone would have predicted to shave off even more time.
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Playing a game only a part of the way through in order to improve a later game seems both tedious and potentially unenjoyable. I'd be more in favor of options that don't require SRAM for the second game (such as most DS games that give bonuses from the GBA games), or don't precisely care about the details of the save data (though this one is somewhat shakier). Though one would wonder, that if influencing a game by having a GBA game in the slot is okay, then it would also somewhat encourage those few GBC games that get bonuses by being played on GBA, such as the Zelda Oracle games.
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Huge improvement on the camera angles, and I found the new route through BitFS rather interesting. Hard to really appreciate frame differences, but the reasons I can see get it an obvious Yes from me.
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Well... if an input file was made available for your example scenario, then it would need to be directly checked whether the new run was made through copying the original run's input and changing inconsequential inputs (such as going up, then left, instead of left then up), or rather if it was made through reverse-engineering, without actually using the input file as a basis. In the former, I'd reject based on plagiarism. In the latter, I'd accept only if the original author was asked to submit his original input file and declined. But that's just for that hypothetical situation. I don't think this particular Pokémon Yellow TAS is capable of deviating input, since it's already so minimized that any similar attempt would more-or-less use the same inputs, regardless of whether the user was aware of a prior video or simply the strategy involved.
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Wouldn't "less censoring" technically fall under "better graphics"?
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gia wrote:
Saethori I'm not sure those are the conclusions every person out of the loop will make out of this.
Unfortunately for me, I'm not every person. My autism has made it somewhat... difficult to both interpret things and restate what it is I understood out of it, and so I tried to be as careful as possible to state that these were simply my thoughts on the confusing matter. I apologize if I said something that was negative, I attempt to avoid using such terms or phrasings but aren't always successful.
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I don't even understand the requests being made, let alone the rationale behind them. But my immediate impression, from reading through this topic post-merge, is that Gia voluntarily excluded himself from the TAS community, expressed violent outrage from being excluded (by himself) from the TAS community, and then threatened to leave the TAS community he didn't want to be a part of in the first place. What are his goals? It's hard to say. It feels like he wants everyone involved in the run banned, and their little dogs, too. And the run taken down from the site, given only a minor footnote that there was this unprovable record from some guy whose only reason he didn't submit himself because he, evidently, not only didn't care for the TAS community, but actively wanted to damage it. And so we're left with an impartial side of the story. And the only conclusion I can think of on why Gia won't release the truth about his side of the story is that, maybe, he thinks we'll somehow violate copyrights by using it to formulate discussions and decisions.
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Yet another part of my nostalgia memories have been TASed. o.o A Yes vote from me, even though I'm only part-way through I can certainly feel the quality of the run. EDIT: And now that I've watched the run to completion, I'd give it another Yes vote if I could. Item use is downright ingenious at times, And each item was used in cleverer ways than the one before, culminating, of course, in the highlight of the run, the Ocarina of Reality-Warping (and side-effect of occasionally summoning birds).
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Does F-Zero GX have some sort of Rubberband AI? Or, in a Grand Prix TAS, would you literally be leaving everything and everyone in your dust? (...Though, really, the presence of enemy cars alone will likely throw off the speed of the courses, since simply tapping one will likely hurt your speed.)
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Certainly a sign of the craziness of this run's glitching when even stairs (and, evidently, walls) were deemed superfluous. And now that the run is so short that the video is over two-thirds intro, I'm certain that this run will -TM8 TM8 nROCKET8 8 V8 i z t 1d 1 error.-
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While I haven't personally tried it, I would have my doubts about it being possible. Unlike games like Chrono Trigger or Pokémon Yellow, SMAS saves very little data, since all it ever needs to save for a given game/save slot is current world and possibly items held. It would sound like it'd take less than a frame for the game to actually save, which if that were the case would mean TAS's frame precision would be too slow to be able to corrupt it in an input file.
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The Space Jump Boots shortcut alone in GC version would likely save more time than all the instant point-and-shoot the Wii version allows put together. Especially considering how fast TAS aiming could potentially be.
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There's a glitchfest of the SMAS version that helpfully demonstrates many of the glitches available. The SMAS version isn't really slower due to lack of glitches, it's slower because of the second title screen and menu you have to go through. This, combined with how contested SMB3 has been, would mean it is likely impossible to get a faster run on the SNES version, so it doesn't stand much of a chance at being accepted.
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Indeed. One needs only mention a hypothetical point where it'd be okay to reset to input a password before it shifts into moving that point earlier and earlier. Let's use one of the password-based Mega Man games as a basis. If it becomes "okay" to reset on the first frame of the password screen, then it's only a matter of time before the distinction becomes arbitrary. There are plenty of times where the same conclusion could be reached by resetting earlier. After the Weapon Get screen fades? After the boss room of the stage fades? After the final shot connects with the boss? After the moment the final shot is fired? Any of these reach the same obvious conclusion, but each one is even more unappealing for watching than the last. Password abuse is hard to pin down, would be highly contested if it were allowed, and would quite frankly take hits on the entertainment of the run, for a site whose primary goal is entertaining runs. ...Sorry. I just needed to get that off my chest. I'm done ranting now.
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There may be enough run material there to steal hijack inspire enough for a full run. >_>;; My thoughts, though, is that for the run, it may be best to go for Hard Venom via Area 6. It may be slower, but it's technically the 'good ending', which would be more entertaining.
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I concur with the multiple encode idea. For example, Vykan12's recent Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones run provided optional additional encodes that cut out a lot of the slack from the run. The input file was still certainly good enough to publish on its own merits, but the alternate encode makes it a lot easier to go through for some people. Every game has at least some slow parts, but RPGs and Strategy Games have the greatest to benefit. Those are the games people have the hardest time really working with here on the website, since it's easy to take ten minutes off to watch a platforming run, but not as easy to take three hours to watch an RPG.
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My opinion on the matter... If the password causes any portion of the game to be skipped, such as skipping levels or collecting items, then it should be disallowed. This includes the provided examples of having already completed the level or collected the items before using the password that you 'earned'. (Examples: early Mega Man games, Metroid, Biker Mice From Mars) If the password starts the game from the beginning, but unusual pretenses, then it should be allowed. Depending on the differences, it may warrant a separate category. (Examples: DKC3's TUFST mode, Legend of Zelda's 2nd Quest, New Super Mario Bros.'s Luigi Mode) Technically, it can be said that resetting at the frame a password is available, then resetting to input the password (at times this would be faster) would technically be okay. However... resetting so frequently like that could be extremely jarring, so it would still be a good idea in most situations to make the speed/entertainment tradeoff of simply progressing normally.
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It's a difficult line to draw to allow a run that disallows one game-breaking glitch (the wall-walking used in the glitched run) but allows another. (For the purposes of this example, "game-breaking glitch" is defined as any glitch or bug that noticeably twists the intended path of the game, as the wall-walking does by completely bypassing the game goal of instrument-collecting.) Previous attempts at publishing similar situations for different games have been halted due to this problem. It's difficult to justify a category for every cherry-picking of glitches or restrictions. It's easier to simply have one run that uses whichever game-breaking glitch is the fastest, and then another that forgoes these glitches, but still uses minor, non-breaking ones like pixel-pushing.
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I didn't know there was already a submission. o.o;
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