Thanks for testing, the first option will be included in the next release.
I feel like the mid route was just as fast as the left, except that it didn't do the concrete shot on the third bomb dispenser while dropping (instead using it after landing and jumping again), so it's not really a fair comparison on that regard.
| Mini Boss Tactic | Finishes Mini Boss | Frames needed | Touches Boss Door |
| Concrete Only | 29537 | 2152 | 31689 |
| Concrete + Magma | 29645 | 2080 | 31725 |
| Rush Coil only | 29698 | 2045 | 31743 |
At 0:30 do you have to wait that long to shoot that thing in order to get shot in the correct place?
Diggi, I got to say, I love our collaboration. I do the rough work and you come like an angel and tidy things. Love that and fantastic work!
29 frames may be different times if he's talking about Frame and not VI, VI is in all case 60fps, Frame is fps dependant, Megaman might be 4 by 4 frames, take the VI counting! (wished I could help, but I have 6 tests ;()
Alright, check this out AngerFist. This is the farthest point I get ahead of rush coil in the beginning, plus a few extra frames for the editing error and missing the ladder zips.
I just checked in Dolphin, and of course... it takes exactly 75 frames for your run to go from that point to mine, haha. Definitely got a hefty frame war here! No one said this would be easy. :/
Also, I found some of your lost frames, in that you actually lose a couple frames in the first teleporter room for using the coil instead of concrete. This is because your vertical acceleration as you enter the first teleporter is much higher than mine since I only jumped while you were boosted. This extra vertical acceleration is carried over when you exit the teleporter, and it takes you a few extra frames to be able to grab the ladder. There's more than that throughout the stage, but it could be little things like that that are adding up.
I looked at the new and first ones again to compare them. The new version looks a lot smoother than the first one. So I'm guessing that it'll be following Weakness order after Galaxy Man?
if you space out your shots so that you always hit him first frame but you’re shooting from really far away, then you could shoot and get hit by a flame shot on the same frame to get invinicibility without losing as much time
This is 15 frames faster than the wip you posted in terms of last boss hp line disappearing. I may not have fully optimised the achievement window, I have no idea, so you should check that.
I feel like if you got hit on the 5th jump, you could potentially set yourself up better for the 6th jump to kill further downtime, and save more time overall. Just a feel though, probably wouldn't amount to anything.
I meant when you have to go from left to the right, if there is a ladder you can grab it then release it on first frame and it saves time, take for example 0:27 in your video, there is a ladder you can grab then release on first frame while moving right, it will saves 3-4 frames :)
This is what I came up with (no idea if it'll sync, I am not fond of how dolphin handles movies), which I think pulls ahead until the last 4hp, at which point it loses out due to a bad pattern.
Is that in total, or both times? According to that, taking a hit would still be faster. I tried improving the magma man fight myself because I felt it could be a little faster, but with dolphin being an ass when I tried playing it back for a comparison ("fatal desync "error in playwiimote: 4!= 7 byte 350"" what the hell does that even mean? way to be useful, error), I couldn't actually tell if I was ahead or behind at a specific point.