If you can death warp after getting no sword then clearly route 3 is faster, here's why: You will get to LH faster because the super slide is quicker and KF to HF is faster than, death warp + ToT to HF. Then death warping to ToT from LH or fishing pond is faster than playing the song. So that is: after FT to FP route 3>2 and FP to ToT 3>=2. If Acryte thinks 1 is faster than 3 I would at least do a quick run through of that to see if it's anywhere close.
There's a gameshark cheat which nullifies the pause lag but in only works on PJ64.
I know for a fact that route 2 is the fastest. Here is my proof: I need to learn the Prelude of Light which will warp me directly to the ToT. Why learn it if it has no use, esp. when you HAVE to learn it. That way, after doing what I need to in Lake Hylia. I can warp there and avoid having to take the owl or supersliding to the Market and just have direct access to the ToT. Also, the superslide from the Market to Lake Hylia is about 5-7 seconds longer of a superslide than from the Forest to Lake Hylia. Route #2 from mwl's earlier post is the fastest method.
Does the pause delay count against the internal time (the time stored in the .m64)?
I actually hope this run comes out at like 2:01 and that will be enough inspiration to run it again and cut off a minute. Because when I think this is all said and done there will be at least a minute that could be saved with more optimal gameplay, more effecient bomb pickups, more super sliding, killing self with shield droped bombchus instead of bombs, and maybe new and better strategies that will be discovered.
dont do an .avi yet, I might have to redo parts of the temple. :( I need to get bombs or not use 1 so I can superslide from HF to LH
he doesn't trap phantom ganon on the railing
http://download.yousendit.com/83A468A3458A820C Here is what I got. I coud not get Phantom Ganon in 1 cycle. I dont think its possible.
Acryte: dumb question. Do you need NL to superslide into the distance? I am having trouble with supersliding off into the distance to get into the boss room.
1. It may well be worth testing the bottle dive in LW and then hookshot laddder glitch in ZD in order to get to Lake Hylia.
2. I've now definitley think its illogical to use a death warp to the ToT, there is no chance in hell that its quicker to get from there (considering there is also time wasted from the use of a death/savewarp} as opposed to going directly on foot KF the angle into the ladder completely negligable, and anyway why not just use a deathwarp once you have the bottle on B.
3. When this is submitted would this obselete the current run becuase by definition the current run is supposed to be the fastest possible route through the game. Obseleting that would give a greater justification for a all medalion run.
Well, if I die and not save/continue, and then beat the Forest Temple, will I just go from KF --> HF (Is there a peahat to superslide off?) --> LH and so forth?
I have 2 hearts left, and this leaves me with taking a heart off from being captured by the "Monsters that hang from the ceiling" which would take me back to the beginning(which is perfecto)
MWL - no, bombs can be used for horizontal distance... quite a bit really, but only if you are descending.
AKA, yeah too bad we don't have gold scale huh. Does your bottle have anything in it? Doesn't it have a fish? Can you bottle dive and then go to zora's domain and use the hookshot ladder trick to get to the hylia warp? would it even be faster? You'd need to grab another bug or fish or something though.
Is it really best to use a deathwarp ToT, as deaths cost quite a lot of time espeacially when you need to save quit, the time saved from using the PoL is quite minimal in my opinion
EDIT: Nevermind, I dont need any bombchu's, just 3 bombs. 2 for each block I need to get on, and 1 for the boost. That leaves me with 12 bombchus and 3 bombs.
if you can find a way to fall in the void... do it the way I said above, then fall in the void (or deathwarp) and you can respawn back in the room up top and fight the 2nd set of stalfos.
Just making sure, but we are grabbing the key in the 1st room (using hookshot) and then the key in the floormaster room that is next to the block maze room after the megajump right?
MWL - just an idea, but have you tried killing the stalfos for the key, and then exiting and entering again, and then hovering up top?
Also, I think using a Death Warp after getting the bow will be faster than Song of Soaring.
I keep getting a game crash and mupen freeze. I dont think this is going to work.............
I dont understand? What are you trying to say? Here is my .zip file from Death Mountain Trail to Forest Temple entrance. If you think that there is a trick that does not allow NL or whatever, let me know now because I am going to go ahead and try and finish the Forest Temple. I didnt grab gauntlets (if that is what you thought). Im pretty sure I did this right, Enjoy!: http://download.yousendit.com/12DAFFC913D057E5
yeah it doesn't matter what plugin I use. Mupen hates me. Kinda dumb really... it totally would have gotten us sub-2. No gauntlets, no Nayru, no requiem no bosskey or poes. That would have been it. though it is still possible... this wou
Can the trick be done without Naryu's Love? Or does the staircase get in the way, or do you not have enough time to superslide?
Okay, so... in the room before that, use NL and then release a bombchu and have it go length-wise across the room. Have it timed so that it blows up on the door. Now, you want to drop it, run to the door; go through it; quickly pull back slightly towards the door and drop a bomb (the bomb should be outside the bombchu's blast radius), then run forward a tiny bit and then store the groundjump. The bombchu explosion won't blow up that bomb, but it will hit NL and make you slide (so being too close to your bomb doesn't matter since it doesn't blow up and won't cancel your superslide... this makes it a lot easier). Now, make sure your angle is perfect and you should stick. Once you hear the platform start to lower, let go of R and then you'll get inside. do something that lifts you off the ground, aka a jumpslash or a sidehop etc. Then you are good to go!
