I admit that I still don't get the point of "highest score in fastest time". To me it sounds like comicalflop was trying for just the absolute highest score, but got lazy, and eventually settled for pretty-high scores that didn't take as long to achieve. Is that the real situation here?
In fact, I would much rather you not optimize it for a few reasons. 1. Harder on you. 2. Makes absolutely no difference 3. We dont need extra time spent on a part of the game everyone will forget once we finally get through this boring part. I think we can all agree that next WIP sooner is better than next WIP later.
I also remembering stating at the begininning that sidehops look much slower, especially when you do them up inclines. Is it in fact faster than spinning up? I really believe that spinning is best to use when making turns and going up that inclines that you use sidehopping for- I noticed a few places where you used sidehops to do this, and it seemed much slower. It's most likely because Deku Link has slow/short jumps, both for backflips and sidehops (that probably also applis to Goron, and from what i remember the Zora sidehopped seemed to be slightly slower as well, though not as bad as Deku/Goron.) with longer pauses between jumps, and that normal Link has the best hopping action.
aaaa I came back expecting it to be done but it desynced anyway. so here is from first control all the way to scarecrow and I'll do the rest some other time >:( http://tas.monotoli.org/mov/mm/lozmm-mukki-wiptas-01.mkv
I am NOT counting the debate to use Pacifist in every single stage, as I have stated before it's going against my highest score in shortest time goal and would greatly decrease the entertainment.
In regards to the backflip over the counter; do I do this in both instances (i.e. when first entering the Stock Pot in and then after Grandma's story) or only after Grandma's story. I ask because it will be clearly faster after the story since I am using the ground floor door but I'm still unsure about the first. EDIT -- I recorded a movie from a savestate of this area doing this and it did in fact turn out slower by about 30 frames, it wasn't as intensely TASed (about 105 rerecords to a 40 second movie). I went over the counter on both occasions which is probably why. I really only think it will be faster the second time.
agh I can't view it, youtube links don't work for me 100% of the time, bummer. BtT Youtube Link Mario Bros. Youtube link I'll try to squeeze in Pikachu tonight, maybe even DK as well. Then I'd have caught up with antd.
Before I make the decision I'll wait for Petrie and pyh to see what they think. Also, I'll PM Maximus about his TAS editor to find out if when it is made Mupen compatible I could separately record the Stock Pot Inn sequence and graft it in.
But you're right, unless there is a collosal breakthrough in Mupen development that makes it not shit i'll probably be the first and last person to do this so it should be as perfect as possible.
Also, it should be noted that I'll be going to university (hopefully) in september at which time all my computational activities move onto a laptop which can not handle this game. What I'm getting at is that this run can't turn into a FODA-like year long TAS or it won't get finished. I'm confident I can get this done long before then as I am spending 2-3 hours + per day on it, but we need to know what we are doing.
I want to point out what a horrible horrible suggestion your screenshot is. Almost to the point where it's 10 times worse than the one currently used.
I did mention this earlier you can shoot a bubble at the middle of the clock tower in order to get three ruppees, which would give you a quick upgrade to the adult wallet as you'll need to get the chest in ECT.
1) Have you tried backflipping over the counter in the stock pot inn? I'm not sure, but it may be faster.
2) Why didn't you skip tatl's message right before entering the clock tower?
3) Doesn't it save time to charge you bubble while running towards the skull kid?
I'll redo if it makes that much of a difference, however, I am now in Clock Town after getting the deku mask so it might be a long way back to go and more desyncs for a second or so of improvements.
About skipping Requiem.. Just leave through the top and you can skip it... only thing is that you have to go through the extra rooms.
For those who don't know, the Golden Scale is normally obtained as an adult only.
I've thought about using a couple of the other images on this page (just about the only publicity the run managed to get...*sigh*), but thought they may spoil a bit too much.for skippable stuff in Spirit temple, I vaguely remember at some point on youtube seeing a vid of bomb staircasing and somehow bypassing the huge grey block that needs the iron gauntlets to enter the adult section... don't know if A) it'll work or B) that means that you can play the adult section as a kid and get the mirror shield early... is there any way to bomb boost/seamwalk/SS up to the iron guantlets from the outside? I don't know if using the fish to those extremities will get the desired effect, but sounds like it could save time if it does.
So, dumb questions from the author...... 1. What path are we using? 2. Is mwl still updating the progress site? I am in Hyrule Field about to SS off a peahat. We need to break down the Spirit Temple and see if anything can be glitched through/manipulated. If not that, then Dodongo's cavern as well as Jabu Jabu needs to be well read. For Jabu: I think I should skip picking up Princess Ruto, grab a fish, and use that for getting the boomerang. This leaves the dialogue time down. After getting the boomerang, go back and bomb boost (if Princess Ruto is not grabbed, can you grab and throw a box instead?) Or if the fish still exists, then use that on the next switch. If this is wrong. Please correct.
Yes I did the backflip where you release Z on the input frame before pressing A. I t causes Deku link to do a corkscrew like attack and it gives the illusion that he goes through the heart piece without collecting it.
I guess there's no advantage to waiting until the fairy is in a different location?
