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LTRP, here is my quick attempt showing that my suggestion (which I posted on Youtube) can actually work. It’s just to show you that my method of defeating the boss may be advanced. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/838434676/run.gmv (upd) see what I got from Kaizo

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I have a REAL contest this time. Its another competition for fast TAS times. the first assignment is to beat Sonic 1 Megamix 4.0 GHZ1 Extra Mode in the fastest you can as Super Shadow. I may take the lead sometimes. My TASes are going to be performed on my android. Good luck!

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Posted: 7/4/2013 11:42 AM

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IMPblackbelt

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He posted a TAS'd run of a map of Doom 2 done pacifist. Searched for it and found the same run, frame for frame on another guy's account, uploaded almost a year before. Notified the original owner. Also, one of his two accounts has the current TASvideos published 0-star SM64 uploaded. The pre-video watermark is gone, but the watermark text during the initial scene is still there; he does say the run is not his, but aside from the text actually edited into the video, no credit is given other than "this run is not mine". Also, and this is just a suggestion, but perhaps we should be making an off-topic thread about the Kaizo/Sketchhog issues and move the majority of this into that thread. As important as it is to spread the word so we can shut his antics down, we shouldn't be derailing this thread just for him. >_> EDIT: okay, my fault... The video isn't changed. Also, tired from flying today, so here's the link I should have added pre-edit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUAbnEw0o40

Posted: 7/4/2013 11:25 PM

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I second that we should have a separate topic about Kaizo.

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Posted: 7/5/2013 9:25 AM

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Let’s troll him here, friends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujbvKYPyOTg (not his run, but his stupid comments)

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Posted: 7/5/2013 6:43 PM

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WST wrote:

Let’s troll him here, friends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujbvKYPyOTg (not his run, but his stupid comments)

He just blocked me. Sorry for prolonging the irrelevant, but blocking me for pointing out the facts? Give me a break. View the comments on this video to see the comment he posted himself.

Link to video

TASSonicTheSketchhog wrote:

Your now blocked from my channel. MY OPINION ON MY TASES!

He doesn't even know the difference between "your" and "you're". Wow.

If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300

Posted: 7/5/2013 7:38 PM

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So, I made an improvement from a long competition that me and Qwerty had. Here is a Sonic 2 Haz TAS that was improved by 2 frames.

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If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300

Posted: 7/7/2013 12:12 AM

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Tee-N-Tee’s CPZ1 zip is possible for Amy, but long setup makes it completely useless for her. Link to video

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Posted: 7/7/2013 6:29 PM

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Here is my new run on S2: Generic Conceptions. I got 0:10 about a year ago, and I improved in by 2 seconds.

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If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300

Posted: 7/7/2013 7:37 PM

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Same hack, same level, 3 second improvement. I found this technique out by accident... Sorry for the double post.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 4:05 PM

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not final version, but a firstcomplete run of Sonic 2: Tribute Link to video

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Posted: 7/8/2013 6:12 PM

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I’ve found out that in Sonic 2 XL you can take monitors with negative vertical speed, which means that you can take Amy’s route in Emerald Hill 1. However, you will become very fat and incredibly slow.

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Posted: 7/8/2013 10:36 PM

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So I saw Qwerty's TAS of Sonic 2: Hold Right to Win Edition and I remembered that I had done a run of it back when it was released, thinking about making an April Fools submission; but I ended up changing my mind and didn't do it. Now I am releasing it for your enjoyment; up to the end of ARZ2: Link to video GMV

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Posted: 7/9/2013 7:05 AM

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erm... CPZ1? CPZ2? ARZ1? what happened?

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Posted: 7/9/2013 9:52 AM

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Uh… What the hell happened to CPZ and ARZ1? Memory corruption allowed you to modify some value by just jumping around in the end of EHZ2?.. Or maybe you run back just enough for the capsule to get unloaded and breaking it every time «completes» the next act?.. And is this glitch possible to perform in HTZ2 or WFZ? By the way, here is my last job. It’s mostly optimized, excepting the very end (because I already saw that I reached my goal of 28 seconds). Found a possible zip, which I am going to test with feeuzz’s assistance. Link to video

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Posted: 7/9/2013 2:19 PM

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The object responsible for the bonus countdown is also responsible for taking you to the next level. When it finishes counting down, it changes the level to the next and marks a flag that exits the main game loop at the end of the frame. The bonus countdown object also uses a predefined RAM address to do the bonus countdown (instead of using a segment of its OST). By spawning multiple bonus countdown objects, they will keep reseting the bonus countdown as they begin to countdown, so that all of them will finish the countdown on the same frame; technically, only one of them will finish it in one frame, the other ones will "inherit" the finished bonus. After this, there is a delay (which will go in synch for all of them) and then they all will execute the piece for 'get next level then set flag to exit main game loop'. The first object moves me to CPZ1; the second, to CPZ2; the third; to ARZ1 and the fourth to ARZ2. There is a catch in that the bonus countdown object spawns several auxiliary objects using the OST entries that come right after it if it is either unused or used by another bonus countdown object; so the bonus countdowns have to be generated sequentially (i.e., the 2nd cannot be in a slot before the 1st) and with enough space in-between the main bonus countdown and its auxiliary objects that fits all the other bonus countdown objects I plan to spawn. I use Tails to keep generating braking dust to ensure that. Also note that the score ticks faster and faster because there are multiple objects doing the countdown; this puts a limit to how many bonus countdown objects can be spawned. I think that better optimization of the braking patterns before returning to the capsule may allow another object to tick down, making it possible to skip ARZ2 too; I doubt it is possible to also skip CNZ1 using this method. In theory, it is usable in HTZ2 too; but since it is not possible to spindash from the capsule there, it is probable that only a couple of acts can be skipped at most.

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Posted: 7/9/2013 2:47 PM

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WST wrote:

By the way, here is my last job.

So feeuzz didn't show you my short take on this act that I sent to him, like 2 months ago, to help you?

feos wrote:

Only Aglar can improve this now.

Posted: 7/9/2013 3:21 PM

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Aglar wrote:

WST wrote:
By the way, here is my last job.
So feeuzz didn't show you my short take on this act that I sent to him, like 2 months ago, to help you?

He did, but I was lazy to find the input file and see the exact improvements. Anyway, my goal was simply to repeat the same in-game time in seconds, and it’s reached.

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Posted: 7/9/2013 5:33 PM

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Aglar wrote:

WST wrote:
By the way, here is my last job.
So feeuzz didn't show you my short take on this act that I sent to him, like 2 months ago, to help you?

You prefer we just copy your input? ^^

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Posted: 7/9/2013 8:08 PM

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feeuzz22 wrote:

Aglar wrote:
WST wrote:
By the way, here is my last job.
So feeuzz didn't show you my short take on this act that I sent to him, like 2 months ago, to help you?
You prefer we just copy your input? ^^

I prefer if you take some learnings from the runs I send you, and apply it to your own runs. If a certain situation ends up not being any faster it's not much of a big deal as long as you've put some effort in trying do it as fast as you can and understand the reason for why it's as fast as possible (something which I doubt is the case in the run I sent).

feos wrote:

Only Aglar can improve this now.

Posted: 7/9/2013 8:19 PM

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Friends, stop discussing my run, may I have some my own projects? And what’s the matter of this discussion if I got the same result in seconds (which was my only goal)? I realize that the last part could be done faster, without that braking which decreases my Y speed, and fall to the red spring faster, but I was simply lazy to do it in other way, because I saw that the previously made improvements allow me to loose some frames at that place and still get 0:28 with ease. Of course, when/if I redo mine part of mine and feeuzz’s cooperative TAS, I will watch your run once again, but, just FYI, the Tails run was made offline, and I could not go to TASvideos private messages and check your gmv.

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Posted: 7/10/2013 12:29 AM

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This will surprise a few; I'm continuing where I left off on Sonic Classic Heroes NewGame+.

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If you want to see some of my TASes, http://www.youtube.com/ltrp300

Posted: 7/10/2013 4:25 PM

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This seems slightly unfair -- Hyper Sonic/Tails/Knuckles teaming up against poor Robotnik? What's he supposed to do? Maybe the hack should add a Hyper Robotnik so it's a fair challenge. ;)

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Posted: 7/10/2013 5:14 PM

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Derakon wrote:

Maybe the hack should add a Hyper Robotnik so it's a fair challenge. ;)

Yes vote, truely a Hyper idea :) *kidding

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