Oh shit! Sorry, Hoandjzj, forgot to say that i use Snes9x 1.43 v17. If you want to give it a shot, here is the link to get the emulator. The savestate will work fine if you use this version.
Oh shit! Sorry, Hoandjzj, forgot to say that i use Snes9x 1.43 v17. If you want to give it a shot, here is the link to get the emulator. The savestate will work fine if you use this version.
Thanks :D it works now!
Wow Cpadolf, you don't even need X-ray in this run, it's really amazing! I wonder how can you stand on freeze enemy and jump through ceiling XD
When i was watching the nicovideo any% run, iirc, i saw the same trick without using X-ray, so i thought why you picked it up in your run... i thought it could be due to differences of the hack, as if it was updated and you couldn't use the same trick.
I don't know if this is the same trick, but if it is, we use this tricks in realtime to get the Spring Ball in Super Metroid without using Grapling beam, this way we can go to Crocomire's area later in the run and kill him with a single Plasma charged shot. Also we use it as a little time saver when going to the upper area of Wrecked Ship. You just have to freeze the enemy in a position that when you spinjump on him, Samus is a little bit inside the ceiling, so you just have to jump and she will go through it. Maybe it isn't the same trick...
When i was watching the nicovideo any% run, iirc, i saw the same trick without using X-ray, so i thought why you picked it up in your run... i thought it could be due to differences of the hack, as if it was updated and you couldn't use the same trick.
Hahah, I didn't know it :P
Then Cpadolf will finish it with less than 12 min, awesome :D
Here is a way I will manage to do if I have enough Energy, just Shinespark straight, then go to small path (sacrifice 90 energy then)
Sorry I'm not familiar with v17 so I can't make a good video, just take some screenshots!
But again, this hasn't tested out yet, I'm counting on your talent, Cpadolf :3
hahaha... i was having fun in that area Cpadolf jumped through the ceiling and it's possible even in realtime. If it was just the space for the morphed ball though it wouldn't be possible without X-ray, but as there is small space for you to bomb samus up, you can use that space to jump through the ceiling and reach the other side. Samus will then be crouched and you can bomb her up (realtime). Though it's hard to know if the enemy is or is not in the right position to freeze him, as it hides behind the door.
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Is there still a need for the Power Bombs in that area with the X-Ray Scope or is that area skipped entirely? Also is there even a need for Power Bombs in the run now?
Is there still a need for the Power Bombs in that area with the X-Ray Scope or is that area skipped entirely? Also is there even a need for Power Bombs in the run now?
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Awesome, I know I can't wait till hes finished!!! :D
Also I saw your Botwoon kill and escape. Holy shit that's glitchy. What the hell did you do exactly? Was it because of the Power Bomb you laid after?
Also I saw your Botwoon kill and escape. Holy shit that's glitchy. What the hell did you do exactly? Was it because of the Power Bomb you laid after?
No, it requires Power Bomb to go down!
The screen only can scroll after Botwoon is totally death, but that time I land on the 2nd floor, so it looks like I'm moving through screen :D
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Hoandjzj wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Also I saw your Botwoon kill and escape. Holy shit that's glitchy. What the hell did you do exactly? Was it because of the Power Bomb you laid after?
No, it requires Power Bomb to go down!
The screen only can scroll after Botwoon is totally death, but that time I land on the 2nd floor, so it looks like I'm moving through screen :D
Oh, OK! That's just some crazy glitchy stuff then.
I know in the real game if you exit fast enough before the music ends in Botwoon's Lair and go back in the room he will still be in the room. I guess glitchy shit just seems to happen with Botwoon.
Oh, OK! That's just some crazy glitchy stuff then.
I know in the real game if you exit fast enough before the music ends in Botwoon's Lair and go back in the room he will still be in the room. I guess glitchy shit just seems to happen with Botwoon.
It doesn't look like it's possible to get through that morphball passage with all the lasers in just 3 hits. At least I can't seem to find a way.
Your talking about the escape at the end where that Hunter Shaft is right?
Dunno what the room would be called, but I guess so, yeah. It's a vertical room with a bunch of gray pirates, and it's really near your ship.
Anyway, I can do it in 4 hits, but it looks like it'd be faster to it the way Hoandjzj did it.
It doesn't look like it's possible to get through that morphball passage with all the lasers in just 3 hits. At least I can't seem to find a way.
Yes, just 3 hits, I did it in my 1st run of this hack (at 00:31:00)
In my 2nd run, I didn't know Speed Booster speed up so I have to charge Shinespark many times! But with this new speed, it will less by 1 :)
Can you boostball in the red pirate right before Hoandjzj morph Samus to go through a small passage in a way that it makes Samus fly higher enough to break the next two walls? If she only breakes the first wall, you could use the morphball trick to keep the echoes, so you jump and break the other wall?[/img]
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Cpadolf wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Cpadolf wrote:
It doesn't look like it's possible to get through that morphball passage with all the lasers in just 3 hits. At least I can't seem to find a way.
Your talking about the escape at the end where that Hunter Shaft is right?
Dunno what the room would be called, but I guess so, yeah. It's a vertical room with a bunch of gray pirates, and it's really near your ship.
Anyway, I can do it in 4 hits, but it looks like it'd be faster to it the way Hoandjzj did it.
Yea that's the area I thought you were talking about. Do you need the Spring Ball to do it Hoandjzj's way?
Do you need the Spring Ball to do it Hoandjzj's way?
It seems not, cause when Hoandjzj enters that area he uses the spring ball to reach faster a safe place up in the second laser, but it's safe to fall too, so Cpadolf can fall and jump to the place Hoandjzj landed. So it seems...
Can you boostball in the red pirate right before Hoandjzj morph Samus to go through a small passage in a way that it makes Samus fly higher enough to break the next two walls? If she only breakes the first wall, you could use the morphball trick to keep the echoes, so you jump and break the other wall?[/img]
Yeah, I tried, the speed is enough for the ball to bounce to the 2nd wall, then you have to un-morph right before the Pirate and do the trick to keep the echoes :) so that you'll charge less by 1!
Interesting, but if Cpadolf manage to go through the laser area with 3 hits, it will be probably faster.
Edit: After the Second wall, can you use the morphball trick to keep the echoes and jump higher enogh to hit the third wall? So you wouldn't have to go down to charge the shinespark only for that wall.
Edit2: hum... watching the movie it seems to be too high to reach with a jump without speed...
Edit3: Wait, that's what you said before? You can do it? Interesting...
Edit: After the Second wall, can you use the morphball trick to keep the echoes and jump higher enogh to hit the third wall? So you wouldn't have to go down to charge the shinespark only for that wall.
Yeah, that's what I mean :D with new speed trick, Samus can bounce to the 2nd wall, then do the trick to break the 3rt wall, I tried it but forgot to turn into movie :P
Wow, okay so due to some very odd glitch, it seems you can't shinespark after getting out of that morphball tunnel with the lasers, if you do so you immediately get the crash animation, even though you didn't hit anything.
It does look like it might have been faster to do it the old way anyway though.
Wow, okay so due to some very odd glitch, it seems you can't shinespark after getting out of that morphball tunnel with the lasers, if you do so you immediately get the crash animation, even though you didn't hit anything.
It does look like it might have been faster to do it the old way anyway though.
Yeah, if your energy tank is less than 30, you can't shinespark then :P
Sorry I'm not familiar with v17 so I can't make a good video, just take some screenshots!
But again, this hasn't tested out yet, I'm counting on your talent, Cpadolf :3
