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Where's the .wtf file? Also, I'm pretty sure dumping avi with Hourglass works for this game. Also, there's a shorter run of this game (2:15.23; 867 rerecords) by "Nekosin" here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14743772. Replace "video.jp" with "zon.net" in that link to view it without a nicovideo account.
Where's the .wtf file? Also, I'm pretty sure dumping avi with Hourglass works for this game. Also, there's a shorter run of this game (2:15.23; 867 rerecords) by "Nekosin" here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14743772. Replace "video.jp" with "zon.net" in that link to view it without a nicovideo account.
I don't had the time to upload it. Since there is a faster run, I will try if possible to beat it
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I wanted to see a TAS of this for a long time, good luck!
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I have made an improvement over my previous run, but for now doesn't beat the other run. I want still to share it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?wb26tcqn1it9r3c
Unfortunately, not having the file wtf of nekosin run it's difficult to compare his run with my
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Nice improvement! At the end, is it possible to cut off the input earlier? I have a feeling 2:22.02 isn't the accurate length of the TAS, since the end music started playing long before your input ended.
Nice improvement! At the end, is it possible to cut off the input earlier? I have a feeling 2:22.02 isn't the accurate length of the TAS, since the end music started playing long before your input ended.
You're right, the accurate lenght is 2:17.67. Still isn't enough, but thanks.
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Well, your time is really close to Nekosin's time and I'm sure you can spot the same thing I spotted that looks slightly slower. :) Another run may just put you under his time!
Well, in this case i prefer to to understand how these bugs work before retry the run.
For now, I will try with syobon action 2.
Before starting I searched on nicovideo a TAS and i found this.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14918294
the video contain a faster version of the TAS of the first game and the TAS of the second.
I will try to beat this
EDIT I can't find a good version of this. Every time I download the second, when i open the exe it play the first without music. And doesn't open with hourglass
EDIT I can't find a good version of this. Every time I download the second, when i open the exe it play the first without music. And doesn't open with hourglass
I don't know about the music in Syobon Action 2 (maybe not supported yet?) but this seems to be a good download, and it contains the levels from the first game too so it makes sense that you'd see them (you can skip them by pressing 5 at the title screen before pressing enter). And in Hourglass you can choose "Runtime > App Locale > Force Japanese locale" to allow the game to start up.
EDIT I can't find a good version of this. Every time I download the second, when i open the exe it play the first without music. And doesn't open with hourglass
I don't know about the music in Syobon Action 2 (maybe not supported yet?) but this seems to be a good download, and it contains the levels from the first game too so it makes sense that you'd see them (you can skip them by pressing 5 at the title screen before pressing enter). And in Hourglass you can choose "Runtime > App Locale > Force Japanese locale" to allow the game to start up.
This version work (without the sounds and music), but doesn't start with hourglass even if I use those settings.
I don't think is incompatible, because there is a TAS of this (if you have a nicovideo account, see the video in my post above)
This version work (without the sounds and music), but doesn't start with hourglass even if I use those settings.
Works for me (besides the sound/music, although they work too in this version). Can I see your hourglasslog file of when it fails? Also, if you're not using Windows XP, have you tried enabling the options in the DLL loading menu in addition to the app locale setting?
turbofa wrote:
I don't think is incompatible, because there is a TAS of this (if you have a nicovideo account, see the video in my post above)
By the way, no account is needed to watch that video (here).
This version work (without the sounds and music), but doesn't start with hourglass even if I use those settings.
Works for me (besides the sound/music, although they work too in this version). Can I see your hourglasslog file of when it fails? Also, if you're not using Windows XP, have you tried enabling the options in the DLL loading menu in addition to the app locale setting?
Now work, the problem was in the dll options, thanks!
Much better! Your run is almost as fast as the fastest run I found, and the wall-jumping you did on the last level was cooler. :D I, personally, think this is submittable. I would vote yes. It's short and sweet with many tricks for its length.
Much better! Your run is almost as fast as the fastest run I found, and the wall-jumping you did on the last level was cooler. :D I, personally, think this is submittable. I would vote yes. It's short and sweet with many tricks for its length.
I would, but the problem is that I can't beat the other run. I tried yesterday another time and I saved 10 frames in the first level, but I lost about 100 in the third level.
Tryed another time, I can't beat this record. Every time I do this run i get an improvement in the first level, but or I lose some frames in the second level or I lose a lot of frames in the third. For now, I don't want to give up, but I don't know what to do. I watched the 1:55 TAS another time, and I can't see were i can do improvements. The 2 runs for me seem pretty much the same
By the way, I can't get the movie file you posted to sync, but it looks like it desyncs because one of the jumps is simply missing, and it's weird because when I look in the movie file it says you press the jump button on that frame. So I'm looking for some stupid bug in Hourglass that could be causing this. If you were thinking about actually submitting this soon, maybe it would be problematic to submit it before that's ironed out. Also, I'm not sure what framerate should be used for this game. The encode you provided looked horribly choppy half of the time to me, and I wonder why you didn't use the in-game AVI capture (it doesn't work for this game on your computer?).
By the way, I can't get the movie file you posted to sync, but it looks like it desyncs because one of the jumps is simply missing, and it's weird because when I look in the movie file it says you press the jump button on that frame. So I'm looking for some stupid bug in Hourglass that could be causing this. If you were thinking about actually submitting this soon, maybe it would be problematic to submit it before that's ironed out. Also, I'm not sure what framerate should be used for this game. The encode you provided looked horribly choppy half of the time to me, and I wonder why you didn't use the in-game AVI capture (it doesn't work for this game on your computer?).
I have the same sync problem when I run hourglass normally. For not have this problem, i need to run hourglass as an administrator (i have windows vista)
And for the encode, the second, I actually used the in-game AVI capture (I used the Xvid MPEG-4 codec with default settings)
