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A weird submission. Seriously, I was expecting to see S1&K as your next job :)
I already told you that TASing this game is like half-TASing S3&K.
However, I cannot vote «no» because of that. The question in the title asks me if I find the movie entertaining, and I wouldn’t like to lie, I find it very entertaining.
I also have a feeling that you could ask me to help writing detailed per-level explainations. Viewers like to know how the things are done. Seriously, so long time together, why can’t we cooperate a bit?
I’m giving it a Yes vote, because I love the run itself.
I got 2 questions for now
1. What exactly was luck-manipulated?
2. Was it impossible to glide-glitch through the Eggman’s door in SZ2?
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Isn't sonic 3's engine slightly different? Maybe that could be abused for some faster speedruns at parts, if one were to do a Sonic 3 TAS? (I know this is Sonic and Knuckles, just stating) After all, do we know if Knuckles' boss was added for Marble Garden?
Isn't sonic 3's engine slightly different? Maybe that could be abused for some faster speedruns at parts, if one were to do a Sonic 3 TAS? (I know this is Sonic and Knuckles, just stating) After all, do we know if Knuckles' boss was added for Marble Garden?
Sonic 3 & Knuckles changed some Sonic 3 levels and physics (Some glitches only work on Sonic 3 alone, not in S3&K), but I think the reverse is not true (an S&K level or physics being changed by playing it in S3&K instead)
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Is anyone working on an encode?
Uploading in progress (my uplink is very slow, using 3G now). Soon.
(upd) here is the quick encode, will replace it with a better encode after it’s uploaded
(upd 2) here is a better encode; my apologies about the delay, it’s all because of this.
Link to video
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Sorry, where exactly is this rule or guideline "evident"?
That was the wrong word to use I guess. What I meant was that apparently there is a rule/guideline for only doing full S3&K, and not "Sonic 3" or "Sonic & Knuckles". If such rule doesn't exist, then I apologize. I still think it's redundant to TAS Sonic & Knuckles alone nonetheless. Then again, I liked the run. So in conclusion, I give it a "meh".
That was the wrong word to use I guess. What I meant was that apparently there is a rule/guideline for only doing full S3&K, and not "Sonic 3" or "Sonic & Knuckles".
Yes. I'm asking where this alleged rule apparently exist, because I have not been able to find it. I would tentatively say that there is no such rule.
I know its not the other way around. I was just saying that Sonic 3 has a slightly sifferent engine which might make a run of Sonic 3 alone safer to make. Y'know, with more glitches and all. Or you could do Sonic 3 Complete, a romhack which is basically Sonic 3 and Knuckles, but it uses Sonic 3's engine. However it does fix many bugs, so I'm not really sure about that one. I leave all to you guys.
I honestly loved the run and I don't see a reason to not have this in the vault besides if you think of it S3&K unless you get a hacked rom in itself you have to have an emulator to do that lock on feature to begin with.
now on the other hand if you can pull off all of these same glitches in S3&K then maybe you should do the full mega game, from what im hearing tho is there are 2 different engines to this game and many of there are only manageable in SK vs complete.
all in all I loved it and its using an sub optinal player and its using a sub optinal game besides they just added SMA recently and that game wasn't all that great compaired to its original or snes remake.
great job and would love to see this and S3 both on here as well as S3&K
I honestly loved the run and I don't see a reason to not have this in the vault
It can be placed in vault. Doesn't mean it can't be placed anywhere else. It could just as easily be a Moon publication.
I understand that it could be a moon publication but honestly more so seeing if anything it goes as a vault, altho some games do shock me sometimes and you never know
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From my point of view it's 14 votes 1 No/10 Yes/3 Meh.
71.43% is Yes no mentioning of Vaulting too.
21.43% is Meh which is directed to vault.
7.14% is No which is keep this off tasvideos, there is always a No so this doesn't count.
So right now it should be going towards Moons and not Vault unless the Yes voters mention it was directed to vault which will change the stats.
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LOL, didn’t know that the tier depends on the voter opinions (always lazy to read all those guidelines, sorry). As for myself, I would prefer seeing a Sonic run in moons.
I disagree with the claimed «heavy luck manipulation» a bit… The only place where I noticed the possible luck munipulation was the ending of SZ1, when Qwerty hits the checkpost. It’s probably done to force a better cylinder/ghosts position, but I am not sure, since I never TASed that part myself. But it cannot be called «heavy». It is heavy when it’s abused all over the game. Also if I TASed that place myself, I’d prefer to manipulate the luck like Aglar and marzojr did it — by using pause button, because it makes the manipulation way easier to perform (by editing that place in a standalone input editor later), and also because it’s faster by real time (notice how Aglar and marzojr hit the boss and run to the door, and manipulate the luck by pauses only after that).
The submission also does not mention that this run aims for the fastest in-game time, not real time. There are a few places where the real time is lost (and one of them is the mentioned way of luck manipulation) in favor if the in-game counter’s time.
But it’s only my TASer’s little notice to this run, which is great anyway.
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LOL, didn’t know that the tier depends on the voter opinions (always lazy to read all those guidelines, sorry).
To be more specific, the poll may be used to judge whether a run is entertaining enough to be a Moon or Star publication, or if it is not (in which case it is either a Vault publication, or rejected).
- There are no hard rules or mathematical formulas on poll stats determining whether it is "entertaining" or "not entertaining" for the purpose of tier.
- The poll options "Yes", "No" and "Meh" answer the question "Did you find this movie entertaining?". They are not intended to answer any other question whatsoever. It is not intended behavior to vote yes in the poll and claim it was "directed for vault", or vote no in the poll and say it means "keep this off TASVideos". In practice, there is no way to police how users vote, so some interpretation may be necessary. But as far as the poll is concerned, there is nothing more to the poll than what it literally asks.
