Posted: 8/19/2004 11:22 AM
Post subject: Star Force
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Bisqwit
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Since Warp posted the kill-everything Gradius 3 movie, I started considering making a similar movie of Star Force. As I recall, it's really hard if not impossible to destroy every destroyable object in that game.
Posted: 12/26/2004 12:50 AM
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Post subject: Re: Star Force
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Bisqwit
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I made a small demonstration FMV... four levels only. (That's about as far as I've got when playing on a real console...) https://files.tasvideos.org/bisqwit/bisqwit-starforce-incomplete.fmv It misses only a few shots - mostly accidents, due to ground-based objects ignoring being shot - and lets a few enemies go unharmed (I couldn't catch them). Opinions?
Posted: 12/26/2004 12:14 PM
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Walker_Boh
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Haven't watched it (sorry), but I like the idea. This game has bugged me since forever and I have never managed to complete it. The instruction book says something weird like "In stage P there is a hidden boss".. Something like that. So if you manage to complete this game that would be awesome! Atleast I think so.
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Posted: 12/26/2004 12:41 PM
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I played around some with this too. It's really irritating how everything on the ground cannot be hit until it's halfway across the screen. Makes it impossible to destroy everything in most levels probably. Like those arrow things which take a lot of shots to destroy. I'll check it as soon as possible, which might not be very soon, but anyway.
Posted: 5/12/2010 7:11 PM
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I wanted to take a break from any serious TASing and do something just for fun, so I picked up this game and TASed the first 6 levels. I aimed for maximum score, but unfortunately, it's not possible to kill every enemy in this game (only a few slip by). Again, I did this just for fun, and I'm not at all sure I will continue it, and even if I do finish it, it's probably not submitting material. If you have 10 minutes to spare, put on some good music, make yourself comfortable, and take a look: .fcm .fm2 youtube
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Posted: 10/22/2012 1:56 PM
Post subject: Star Force NES
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JWinslow23
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Hi, everyone! I saw a WIP by YouTube username "tasvideosrandil" of Star Force NES, and it got me thinking, "Would a Star Force run by me get published?"
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 10/22/2012 3:18 PM
Post subject: Re: Star Force NES
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YoungJ1997lol
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JWinslow23 wrote:
Hi, everyone! I saw a WIP by YouTube username "tasvideosrandil" of Star Force NES, and it got me thinking, "Would a Star Force run by me get published?"
JWinslow, didn't you read Fractal's post?
"FractalFusion wrote:
JWinslow23, you have been submitting too many subpar TASes and no form of constructive discussion has taken place. Do not submit any more movies for the next week or else we will have to take away your submission privileges.
You need to calm down and STOP SUBMITTING. My reccomendation is, first, make sure there is a record already of the game. Second, you need to know that most movies take MONTHS to make. Trust me, I did a tas of Mario's Time Machine, and it took 2 hours....but it didn't seem publishable. Got all that?
So yea, how's it going? Currently TASing: Nothing
Posted: 10/22/2012 3:42 PM
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Yes, but there is only one flaw with your theory.
I haven't submitted it yet!
But still, I understand about the "it takes months, or years" thing, so no need to remind me.
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 10/22/2012 4:04 PM
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Agree with JWinslow. Just remember to build off of what others have already discovered, so you save some time. No sense in reinventing the wheel. Also, think about collaborating with an experienced TASer, if you like, so you get a different viewpoint/approach. One last tip: do some research to see which platform is best: NES, Arcade, etc. (choose the more difficult, better graphics, better music, etc.). Good luck, and remember to post WIPs in this forum! (Speaking of shooters, I think a 1-player max score dot eater on the hardest difficulty of Ikaruga would be well-received.)
Posted: 10/22/2012 4:26 PM
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Randil
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The youtube user "tasvideosrandil" is me, by the way. I'm glad you liked it. :) If you're serious about making a Star Force TAS I can share what I have (input file, RAM addresses, etc.). EDIT: I found now that I already my a post about it in the original Star Force thread: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=234352#234352 A moderator might want to merge these threads.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 5:01 PM
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Randil wrote:
EDIT: I found now that I already my a post about it in the original Star Force thread: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=234352#234352 A moderator might want to merge these threads.
Done. (Ironically, I only noticed this post right after merging the threads.)
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Posted: 10/22/2012 8:01 PM
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graywords
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Randil wrote:
I wanted to take a break from any serious TASing and do something just for fun, so I picked up this game and TASed the first 6 levels. I aimed for maximum score, but unfortunately, it's not possible to kill every enemy in this game (only a few slip by). Again, I did this just for fun, and I'm not at all sure I will continue it, and even if I do finish it, it's probably not submitting material. If you have 10 minutes to spare, put on some good music, make yourself comfortable, and take a look:
Just took a peek at the YouTube upload, Randil. Good stuff — it looked like you had a lot of fun! I noticed you didn't rapid-fire kill the first mini-boss prior to it combining (the secret 50k bonus point trick) - example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQWiLwYlls There are a few other hidden bonus point tricks that can be done in this game, listed on various sites, if you ever decide to play around with this again.
--Graywords
Posted: 10/23/2012 4:01 AM
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JWinslow23
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@tasvideosrandil (oops, sorry! @Randil), I of course am serious about this! (Also, I may never get anywhere with NES Monopoly, this was on the site wishlist, and it looks interesting to TAS, so why not?) I want all the technical details, including and especially the point values and RAM values!
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 10/23/2012 7:19 AM
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YoungJ1997lol
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JWinslow23 wrote:
@tasvideosrandil (oops, sorry! @Randil), I of course am serious about this! (Also, I may never get anywhere with NES Monopoly, this was on the site wishlist, and it looks interesting to TAS, so why not?) I want all the technical details, including and especially the point values and RAM values!
Have you forgotten? Stoppit with the @Nonsense.
So yea, how's it going? Currently TASing: Nothing
Posted: 10/23/2012 7:32 AM
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YoungJ1997lol wrote:
Have you forgotten? Stoppit with the @Nonsense.
He's probably trying to troll you @RealLife.
LLCoolDave wrote:
This seems to be competing for the "Worst looking TAS of 2011" Award.
Posted: 10/23/2012 1:10 PM
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JWinslow23
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You know, I've heard about trolling before, but I don't know what it means! What does it mean?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 10/23/2012 2:13 PM
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JWinslow23 wrote:
You know, I've heard about trolling before, but I don't know what it means! What does it mean?
It means don't take some kids too seriously. Anyway, post WIPs here, we love that.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 3:33 PM
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Here are some RAM addresses: 
00AD X|pixel
00A9 Y|pixel
03B6 En1|X|pos
3E9 Boss|1|HP
3B9 Boss|2|HP
cb Shoot|on|2
0034 Level-1
5f scr|Y|pix?
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Posted: 10/23/2012 3:53 PM
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JWinslow23
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Could be useful! Do you mind if I collaborate with you on a Star Force TAS, @randil (oops, sorry! I mean, Randil)?
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 10/23/2012 5:08 PM
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Randil
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I'm afraid I'm not very interested in TASing this again. I can, however, help you on your way by watching your WIPs and give feedback.
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Posted: 10/23/2012 5:17 PM
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JWinslow23
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I'll work on that (and get more of the point bonuses that you missed)! Edit by JWinslow23: I'm at the first boss of Level Alpha (past him, actually), but I feel as if I'm missing some points. WIP soon to come, so Randil can give me ideas on improvements!
If I could have a tool-assisted real life, I'd... Being a novice, I'd probably load the wrong state, have the IRS AI bankrupt me, and eventually make me want to kill myself and redo 11 years of hard work.
Posted: 2/11/2013 4:58 PM
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Hi, this is my work in progress, it shows the first 3 levels, which are the ones I've done so far: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/4523595919271131