Why would I believe that a sub-pixel on a photo is earth?
A subpixel by definition is invisible. At the smallest that dot would be a pixel, might be bigger than that.
Edit: Lol new page.
Oh btw there is one thing you’re right about nfq, it’s about psychiatrists. I’ve had my share of dealing with them in my life.
Well done nfq, you got me there. If you did insert hints that made your posts distinguishable from sincere conspiracy theory gibberish then I didn't pick them up.
I should have checked your post history myself and not rely on Warp's statement that you expressed similar beliefs before (because it's one of the few ways to beat Poe's Law).
I could always argue that I had checked and just "reverse-trolled" you, but that, I feel, would be a waste of time, because I like discussing with nutjobs to a certain extent (and those certainly do exist!).
Anyway, as long as this also applies to ars4326 and this thread as a whole, this now becomes quite boring, but nice try!
Edit: Oh, and that yellow color phenomenon on LCD screens is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush
All syllogisms have three parts, therefore this is not a syllogism.
It's because he has posted this kind of stuff for years, and has seemingly been completely serious about it, and never given any kind of indication in the past (at least that I have noticed) that he's just pulling our legs.
His posts in this thread are so over-the-top that it indeed makes even me think that he is actually trolling, at least in this particular instance. Maybe he got a sense of humor suddenly. Who knows, perhaps he has always been trolling with these things and done a really good job at it, and never exposed himself as just a prankster.
But yes, I am willing to give nfq the benefit of the doubt and assume he is just joking in this particular thread (unless he explicitly states in all honesty that he's being serious).
What the actual fuck is this thread. I literally can't even.
I'm going to assume that this is entirely trolling and that nobody actually believes any of this hilariously stupid garbage. It would severely scar my hopeful outlook on humanity's future to think otherwise.
Can I get more information on the Colorado pics? I can't take the low resolution jpeg image seriously because any fine details have been washed out.
I can probably say that the images were taken on a Winter night with the moon, well positioned clouds, and skyglow (very bad here in Colorado Springs and a good sign it will probably snow that night).
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Concerning the Colorado pics, if you check closely they are timestamped on the 17th and 19th of June, last month. They were also taken in the morning hours, at around 10 and 8 o'clock, respectively.
Here's a better quality image of the one taken on the 19th: http://oi57.tinypic.com/r8e5w4.jpg
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." - 1 Corinthians 2:9
A subpixel by definition is invisible. At the smallest that dot would be a pixel, might be bigger than that.
Well, the Wikipedia article says it's smaller than a pixel... and even if it was an entire pixel, I would still question if it is earth.
Warp wrote:
It's because he has posted this kind of stuff for years, and has seemingly been completely serious about it, and never given any kind of indication in the past (at least that I have noticed) that he's just pulling our legs.
His posts in this thread are so over-the-top that it indeed makes even me think that he is actually trolling, at least in this particular instance. Maybe he got a sense of humor suddenly. Who knows, perhaps he has always been trolling with these things and done a really good job at it, and never exposed himself as just a prankster.
You seem to have a false dichotomy view about me. I either have to be "just a prankster" or "completely serious"? Why not something in between? Why not both? :)
I haven't really made that over-the-top statements. I have mostly just asked questions. Just because I ask questions about the round earth theory doesn't automatically mean that I believe the flat earth theory. But yeah, I'm serious that I think we should question things, and not just accept them because we read about them in school and whatever (free public schools are part of the communist plan for indoctrinating people [1]).
[1] https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm
Yeah, fuck free education, all hail the free market!
Free education is free as in free beer, but the free market is free as in freedom. So they are the complete opposite. Free education is a way of controlling people and taking away their freedom.
For communism to work, they believe that they have to indoctrinate everybody to become similar, that's why they invented for example their plan for the free public education. That's why the family is also a problem for communists, because they have to steal children from parents, and educate/indoctrinate them (kindergartens are also part of the communist plan [1][2]), because otherwise the population would have too many diverse opinions, morals and values, which would make it hard to control people.
That's why they want to erase the borders between nations (globalism), between races, between cultures (multiculturalism), between genders, between sexual orientations, between religions, between classes etc. Everybody has to be similar (which they promote in the name of so-called "equality") because that makes it easier to control people.
[1] https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1920/abc/10.htm
[2] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14038419
Free education is a way of controlling people and taking away their freedom.
Oh no, people sitting all day in front of their PC and teach themself, thus having no more freedom to do political demonstrations. :(
Just because theirs a product on the free market, doesn't mean the majority of people is going to use this product.
Because we are at CT: Why do chemtrail believers never wear gas masks and protecion suits?
(free public schools are part of the communist plan for indoctrinating people [1]).
I am making this suggestion in complete seriousness: I think you should stop that (not only in this thread, but overall), for your own sake. This is not an attempt to silence or censor, I'm honestly just trying to help.
It doesn't even matter if you are writing that kind of stuff as a joke or in all seriousness. It just makes people not take you seriously. Why would you want to do that? You know that people are not going to take you seriously, and the more you write stuff like that, they will only gain more prejudice against everything you say. In other words, it hurts your credibility, not only in these matters, but in everything. So why do it?
Of course if you really, really want to keep doing it, there's nothing stopping you. But why would you want to? What's the purpose? You are only hurting your own reputation in the process for no benefit.
I am making this suggestion in complete seriousness: I think you should stop that (not only in this thread, but overall), for your own sake. This is not an attempt to silence or censor, I'm honestly just trying to help.
Thank you for your concern :)
It doesn't even matter if you are writing that kind of stuff as a joke or in all seriousness. It just makes people not take you seriously. Why would you want to do that? You know that people are not going to take you seriously, and the more you write stuff like that, they will only gain more prejudice against everything you say. In other words, it hurts your credibility, not only in these matters, but in everything. So why do it?
Of course if you really, really want to keep doing it, there's nothing stopping you. But why would you want to? What's the purpose? You are only hurting your own reputation in the process for no benefit.
It's important for people to know the truth, even if it hurts credibility, or even if it sounds like a joke. In the same way that many Christians keep preaching what they believe, even though people ridicule them, or even throw them to lions, like they did in ancient times.
Since I know things which many people don't know, it would be immoral to be silent.
There are also other reasons why I post the things I do, but at this moment in time, I have not been given authority to reveal them...
A subpixel by definition is invisible. At the smallest that dot would be a pixel, might be bigger than that.
Well, the Wikipedia article says it's smaller than a pixel...
Therefore invisible. All you can see on a screen is the single pixels being lit up, creating an image. Anything smaller is not being lit up, therefore not appearing.
LOL xy2_.
Edit: If you meant the Wikipedia article says the dot in that one image is smaller than a pixel, then I assume you read wrong. I’m not gonna bother checking.
Since I know things which many people don't know, it would be immoral to be silent.
There are also other reasons why I post the things I do, but at this moment in time, I have not been given authority to reveal them...
If you are (still) just trolling, then congrats, you got me, yada yada.
But in case you are still being serious, can't you see how delusional you are making yourself seem? In fact, if you are actually being completely serious, can't you see how delusional you are being?
Conspiracy theorists have this great ability to spin the narrative to make it look like something that it isn't. Conspiracy theorists are so-called "spin doctors" in this sense. They use all the tricks in the book to deceive, to change the appearance of things to look like something completely different. They cherry-pick, take things out of context, abuse psychological phenomena like pareidolia, biases, etc. They are like stage magicians: They make you think you are seeing (or not seeing) something that isn't actually real, via diversion, deception and psychological manipulation and trickery. They abuse the fact that most people do not have the knowledge, expertise nor experience to spot the flaws in the arguments and tidbits that they present. They fabricate a fictional picture out of the cherry-picked tidbits that they isolate from their context. And all of this, of course, with a healthy dose of outright fabrications and lies.
They also appeal to the natural desire that people have to not be deceived (which is rather ironic, really). People want to be above deception, to see through it, to not be just sheep being misled. They want to be in control. They like the idea of being "in the loop", to know all the hidden secrets that the majority of the populace doesn't know. They like the idea of knowing what others don't. Yet, quite ironically, they are being deceived by these spin doctors, who abuse this psychology to the maximum. It's basic con-artistry 101: Make the mark believe that he is in control, when in fact he is just being manipulated by the con-artist. This give the mark a false sense of security and safety, of being above deception.
The thing is, these cons never stand up to closer scrutiny, ie. to actual observation, measurement and controlled testing. That's because they are just that: Cons. It's deception. Conspiracy theories are just fabrications, fantasies, they are not real. (Of course the conspiracy theorists want to make you believe that their theories pass those tests, but that's just part of the deception. They make lots of claims about successful tests, yet they can't present actual scientific peer-reviewed results. Of course if somebody questions them about this, they will just attribute it to a world-wide scientific conspiracy. As if the whole world-wide scientific community were in a secret private club that agrees to discredit them. How convenient.)
If you believe in these conspiracy theories, you are being deceived. You are not in control, you are not above deception. You are just being conned. You have been blinded by their tricks, and you can't see the flaws.
Scientific inquiry, however, works much better. That's because of the strict peer-reviewing process. When a result is presented to the world-wide scientific community, it will be scrutinized and shredded apart to find even the most minute of flaws. If you present the results of some experiment, somebody is going to try to repeat it. Somebody somewhere is going to ask questions about it and see the errors. If the errors cannot be fixed, then the hypothesis is discarded.
Since the world-wide scientific community consists of hundreds of thousands (if not even millions) of people from all around the world, from different countries, cultures and backgrounds, it's insane to think that they all could be in a huge world-wide conspiracy. That's just a physical impossibility. You can't coordinate millions of people from all around the world like this. It's just not possible. (And who exactly would be doing the controlling anyway? And how would they expect to succeed?)
Edit: If you meant the Wikipedia article says the dot in that one image is smaller than a pixel, then I assume you read wrong. I’m not gonna bother checking.
"Subpixel" doesn't actually mean the same as "invisible".
If you photograph a detail that's smaller than a pixel, it will be dimmer than if it were the exact size of a pixel. It doesn't just vanish completely. The photograph will of course have one pixel of a certain color where that sub-pixel detail was; it's just that the pixel will be dimmer. (Very roughly, the brightness of the detail is directly proportional to how much of the pixel's area it covers.)
"Subpixel" doesn't actually mean the same as "invisible".
If you photograph a detail that's smaller than a pixel, it will be dimmer than if it were the exact size of a pixel. It doesn't just vanish completely. The photograph will of course have one pixel of a certain color where that sub-pixel detail was; it's just that the pixel will be dimmer. (Very roughly, the brightness of the detail is directly proportional to how much of the pixel's area it covers.)
I think the best way to settle things is to go with some proof, since talking doesn't seem to lead anywhere.
Let's take the very first video:
Link to video
The first "evidence" is presented at the 45 seconds mark... And it's clearly, really clearly, fake; not edited I think, but fake in the sense that it doesn't show a "2nd sun", or even a celestial body. The thing dances around if you look closely (you don't have to concentrate much on it, it's quite obvious), like a reflexion on a lens or window, and if we look a little more to the left, we can see another, smaller, faint relexion (but less interesting for what the video tries to prove since it doesn't have the right shape). I lack some english vocabulary about these things, but it all looks like what we call "lens flare": multiple reflexions "tied" to each other, if you know what I'm trying to explain :p.
Well, just judging by the movement of that "2nd sun", it's obviously not a celestial body, unless it likes moving on its own in erratic and very fast ways... (consider the distance)
My conclusion: the maker of this video cannot be trusted, since he/she doesn't even verify the "evidence" and starts with a clear fake one. The only matter is that it serves the scenario presented.
I won't go and analyze every other picture/video. I'm sure some of them can be really hard to debunk, and I lack the tools and knowledge to to that work. The fact is, if even I could find a fake without trying, I wonder how I could believe in this stuff.
The first "evidence" is presented at the 45 seconds mark... And it's clearly, really clearly, fake; not edited I think, but fake in the sense that it doesn't show a "2nd sun", or even a celestial body.
A lens flare, a reflection in a window (if it's videoed through one), or a phantom sun. (Assuming it's not just post-processing fakery.)
I am making this suggestion in complete seriousness: I think you should stop that (not only in this thread, but overall), for your own sake. This is not an attempt to silence or censor, I'm honestly just trying to help.
Thank you for your concern :)
It doesn't even matter if you are writing that kind of stuff as a joke or in all seriousness. It just makes people not take you seriously. Why would you want to do that? You know that people are not going to take you seriously, and the more you write stuff like that, they will only gain more prejudice against everything you say. In other words, it hurts your credibility, not only in these matters, but in everything. So why do it?
Of course if you really, really want to keep doing it, there's nothing stopping you. But why would you want to? What's the purpose? You are only hurting your own reputation in the process for no benefit.
It's important for people to know the truth, even if it hurts credibility, or even if it sounds like a joke. In the same way that many Christians keep preaching what they believe, even though people ridicule them, or even throw them to lions, like they did in ancient times.
Since I know things which many people don't know, it would be immoral to be silent.
There are also other reasons why I post the things I do, but at this moment in time, I have not been given authority to reveal them...
You should consider seeing a psychiatrist, you exhibit symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.
If you are (still) just trolling, then congrats, you got me, yada yada.
Nope, still not "just trolling".
Conspiracy theorists have this great ability to spin the narrative to make it look like something that it isn't.
I think conspiracy theorists are mostly honest people telling about how they see the world.
Everybody is biased, not just conspiracy theorists.
Conspiracy theories are just fabrications, fantasies, they are not real.
So there are no conspiracies in the world? Nobody tries to deceive anybody?
Of course if somebody questions them about this, they will just attribute it to a world-wide scientific conspiracy. As if the whole world-wide scientific community were in a secret private club that agrees to discredit them. How convenient.)
Scientists can be deceived too. They're not necessarily knowingly in a conspiration.
If you believe in these conspiracy theories, you are being deceived.
What conspiracy theories? The one about public schools and communism? That's right in the communist manifesto. I don't see how that's a conspiracy.
The second sun is not necessarily a conspiracy either. It could be for example a semi-transparent planet (Rahu, the black sun, which I mentioned earlier) which scientists haven't detected yet because of their insufficient knowledge. Another possibility is of course that it's horseshit.
You can't coordinate millions of people from all around the world like this. It's just not possible. (And who exactly would be doing the controlling anyway? And how would they expect to succeed?)
If we hypothesize an extreme conspiracy such as the flat earth, it might be possible because many of the scientists have been freemasons, so they could be in a freemasonic conspiracy. Most of the astronauts also seem to be freemasons, so NASA can trust them to shut up. When you have a lot of power/money, you can control much of the world, even science.
And like I mentioned earlier, there are military forces in Antarctica which kill you if you try to go find the edge of the flat earth. The military people don't have to know anything about the round earth conspiracy, they're just hired to do a job.
See this interview with a real flat earther, for more answers to your questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G90A2kg1bWshegyak wrote:
Ok, this thread lost credibility when it said "Nibiru Approaches"
Two Words:
Kepler's Law.
