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Objectives

  • Emulator used: BizHawk 1.12.1
  • Aims for fastest any% completion
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Uses a restart sequence
  • Main skip glitch
  • Final boss skip
  • Genre: Action
  • Genre: RPG

About the game

Legend of Z Bomberman Quest is a GBC game that combines a Bomberman typical game with RPG elements. You have a world map to explore, items to get, dungeons to clear... Well, you got the idea.

About the run

It uses the out of bounds glitch used for speedrunning. In RTA timing, this TAS is about 1 minute faster than the current world record of 8:19 [dead link removed]. The main differece is that I didn't fight for getting the Landmine, which is used for making fights easier.

The RNG

The only manipulation I had to do was waiting some frames on the title screen for not being hindered by the rocks falling inside the first cave.

The fights

Enemy beaviour is only affected by position and moment you place bombs. Commander fights are especially hard to optimize because most of time they run away from your bombs; that's why I placed a bomb far away at the beginning of the first Commander fight, in order to make the enemy going to the corner, where can be easily kept trapped with more bombs.

Items used

Normal Bomb
Available from the start. That's the traditional Bomberman weapon. After placed, it will elapse some time before exploding in a cross-shaped deflagration.
Flute
Available from the start. Warps Bomberman to the intial place when used.
Flame
Got from defeating Ballom. Can be combined with a bomb to make its explosion bigger.
Dash Shoes
Got from defeating Onil. Allows to move at double speed by keeping the set button.
Steel Shoes
Found in the first dungeon. Allows to press certain button switches on the ground.
Jump Shoes
Got from defeating Curansee. Allows to jump on cliffs and pass ditches.
Power Gloves
Got from defeating Mechabomb. Allows to thorw bombs.
Explosive Core
Got from defeating a Commander. It is necessary for crafting many bomb weapons.
Boomerang
Got from defeating Gell. It is necessary for crafting Right Bomb.
Right Bomb
Got from crafting. Curves to the right when kicked or thrown. Necessary for the out of bounds glitch.

Tricks used

Corner Pushback
Any corner will push you up to 8 pixel back if you approach it diagonally, so it's possible to save time by walking to the opposite direction if you can reach a corner right away. Useless if you have Dash Shoes.
Corner Pushside
Walking or running diagonally while facing the end of a wall, gives you from 2 to 3 pixel bonus in total. Used in place of Corner Pushback after getting Dash Shoes.
Bomb Pushside
Walking or running diagonally on bombs will give a 4 or 5 pixel bonus for horizontal travelling, and 2 or 3 pixel bonus for vertical travelling.
Placing Running
Placing a bomb while running does not make you lose running speed, despite the fact you have to let go the set running button during the frame you press the set bomb placing button.

Glitches

Defeating Commander dialogue skip
Using Flute when a Commander is about to die allows to skip the dialog about Bomberman getting back an engine part, though it will be necessary to save and reboot the game in order to fix a glitch which unables your bombs from exploding.
Out of bounds
Right Bomb can explode while you're walking into a different room, and this can be exploited to stop Bomberman during his automatic walking, effectively stucking him out of screen. This allows to walk freely vertically and reach places which are not supposed to.
Chaos Bomber skip
Walking outside of the final boss room triggers ending cutscene and credits.

Possible improvements

Maybe.

Thanks

To the speedrunning community, from which I learned about the three glitches.
Noxxa: Judging.
Noxxa: This is a pretty fun run, showcasing a nice amount of little tricks before closing it off with major game-breaking glitches. Viewer response was good and the movie's technical quality also looked good. Accepting to Moons.
Spikestuff: Getting a quick (GBC) one off the plate. Publishing.
Noxxa: Replaced movie file with a version with a fixed platform ID header. Input and sync info are unchanged.

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Posted: 7/2/2017 10:41 PM
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Posted: 7/3/2017 8:36 AM
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Amazing run, I love it... I don't know this game in RPG catégorie and it's a very good surprise, because it have all of than i love, for to be entertaining, the Oob to go to ending, is very cool! Uses luck manipulation, with a bomb placement optimized & menus are fast. Bosses are very good to watch! Yes vote!
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Posted: 7/3/2017 2:50 PM
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This game never made much sense, now it makes no sense. Well done. Voted yes.
Posted: 7/3/2017 6:45 PM
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Bomberman, you blew up the game! Yes vote!
Posted: 7/4/2017 5:54 AM
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I love how they messed up the transparency for the bomb sprites lol. The run is ok. Meh vote. Is there no other way to clip out earlier? What happens if you clip OoB in other places?
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This seems to be competing for the "Worst looking TAS of 2011" Award.
Posted: 7/4/2017 9:41 AM
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Warepire wrote:
This game never made much sense, now it makes no sense. Well done.
If think about it, in this run Bomberman wears three different shoes. At the same time.
jlun2 wrote:
Is there no other way to clip out earlier? What happens if you clip OoB in other places?
If you clip OoB in other places, you end up in other places.
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Posted: 7/4/2017 11:53 AM
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Cute lil run, yes vote!
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Posted: 7/6/2017 3:58 AM
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Uhm... There is something wrong about BizHawk with this run. Before submitting the .bk2 file, I wanted to do a quick check and noticed that the header had written "GB" as Platform. So I manually fixed to "GBC", since the game is, as you can tell just by seeing, Color. But only now I noticed that if you try to play back the .bk2, BizHawk gives the following error: (in case you're wondering: I'm using Windows XP, but I've set the old interface appearance) I'm pretty sure there is a problem with BizHawk 1.12.1 about detecting GBC. Should I resync the movie on a newer version?
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Posted: 7/6/2017 6:23 AM
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It's just a header display issue, no need to worry about such details. Just change it to 'GB' when playing back so that the movie actually starts up. (It's good advice to check the final version you're submitting before pressing send though, especially if you're doing things like this right beforehand)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 7/6/2017 8:02 AM
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I'm sorry... I was sure it was a bug but it was actually right to have "GB". In fact, the site does not use that for recognizing if the movie is for a GB or GBC game. Please replace the submission file with the original unmodified one: User movie #40176273729127375
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Posted: 7/6/2017 3:18 PM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [3458] GBC Bomberman Quest "game end glitch" by ThunderAxe31 in 06:35.66
Posted: 10/4/2017 9:59 AM
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FYI this publication still has a TODO: description.