This topic is for the purpose of discussing #633: Saturn's SNES Super Street Fighter 2 - The New Challengers "Zangief version" in 11:21.47

I like this one a lot. I never knew big Z could land a nine hit combo. Out of curiosity, is it possible to "hold" someone (not throw them, but hold them) and slowly inflict damage until their entire life bar is depleted?

good to see lot submissions of SF2 by yourself. you are imprving. let me see this one :P

OK Finish Watching it. Initially got some questons, You hitted opponent 3 single hits in different times. it got dizzy. Should i take in this meaning, that it can be 3 hits Dizzy combo. While you did a 5 hits dizzy combo? I really did'nt like you fight against Blanka & Especially M.Bison. You should waste him a little change or speedy. example: Using combos. Combos Suggestions: You did a 5 hits dizzy combos. After dizzy Joining a 9 Hit Combo will make it 100% combo. You should use it as well. Voted: I did'nt vote :)

to feitclub: no as a human player it is impossible to make a full life bar damage with holding. You can get at most about 50-60% bar damage if you press the correct buttons. Every cpu has his own defense against holding: for example Cammy has almost no defense and you can hold her very long but strong fighters like T.Hawk Zangief or Bison have the best holding defense and its almost impossibe to make even 2 hits while holding them. CPU Zangief is able to make a full life bar holding on 8 Stars (if optimal) but it is a programmed advantage of the CPU, human can't do it in any case. PS: And yes, as a ssf2 expert I can say you: big Zangief has more potential than most people think :-) to Shakespeare:

You hitted opponent 3 single hits in different times. it got dizzy. Should i take in this meaning, that it can be 3 hits Dizzy combo. While you did a 5 hits dizzy combo?

I don't really know that. I was more concentrated in making a better look of the movie than only thinking of Dizzy combos.

I really did'nt like you fight against Blanka & Especially M.Bison. You should waste him a little change or speedy. example: Using combos. Combos Suggestions: You did a 5 hits dizzy combos. After dizzy Joining a 9 Hit Combo will make it 100% combo. You should use it as well.

Well against Blanka I wanted to demonstarte the power of the holding techniques (I think it must be included in a Zangief movie). Against Bison I wanted to show some counter hits like breaking Bisons kick with my kick since Zangief has very fast hits (even hard hits) and I just felt I should show them because I used many combos in earlier fights before and I wanted to make every fight as most different as possible (you know that from my last movie) for a diversified watch. For a 100% life bar combo: as I said I wanted rather to show as many different combos as possible instead of another 9 hit combo I already did 2 times, and honestly I didn't care about the dizzys to much since I think they won't make a movie more impressing, but if the CPU can move and fight and I counter it anyway its more interesting, I think.

Super Street Fighter 2 - The New Challengers is a Head to Head Fighting game, the best of the Street Fighter series on SNES and also one of the best beat em up games ever made

Beat them up game o_O

Beat-em-up = Double Dragon, Final Fight, TMNT, etc.

Damn beautiful job all around. YES indeed.

Phil: I always thought the genre was called "beat 'em up". So no spelling mistake as far as I can tell. Although I may be wrong, too, of course *ding*

Did you know that The Legend of Zelda is an RPG? It's true!

Some Suggestions: About 8 Stars: Now I am thinking that playing on 8 stars should'nt be a preference. Why? Because we must need to do all perfect either over 8 stars or 1. Doing on 8 star will be difficult for makers, not interesting for viewer. because he can't think how hards is do initial attack vs cpu. especially Zangief :( Lessing the stars level will incread to do combos ability. like you can use different hits combos as double dizzy combos. example. for Zangief got 3-9 hits combos as Saturn said. those all can be used in different time. which will actually save time as well as will be good for watch.

Shakespeare, I think you know best of us about Dizzy Combos so why don't you make a movie of them? Then we could see if it's really interesting to watch. By the way: I really would like to know who is the guy who voted "No" without explaining it again, not that I care about the "No" but more about cowards who can't even write their opinion down. I guess it's always the same person who just has a problem with me or so. I myself would never vote negative without explaining why.

I'm looking foreward for your movie. And no, I didn't mentioned you for the No-voter, Shakespeare.

will this NEW movie be played with more "stars" (so its faster), or was that only availible in Turbo? (or was that even an option in SSF2?)

Saturn: Don't be upset because someone had voted NO. There's always a sucker that always vote NO without telling his reason. Probably some anti-bisqwit's site guy that we don't care. Ex. Someone had voted NO for the Battletoads movie.

is it possible to make NO votes more justified then? or would that even be something that judges take into consideration if the count was like 20 YES to 1 NO?

there's a vote confidence calculation made by bisqwit, i saw it on player's submissions page. it must take in consideration Who voted

The votes are kind of pointless if someone finds a fault other than "I don't like it", like "you didn't take this shortcut.

Saturn: Don't be upset because someone had voted NO. There's always a sucker that always vote NO without telling his reason. Probably some anti-bisqwit's site guy that we don't care. Ex. Someone had voted NO for the Battletoads movie.

Well said, Phil. I'm ok now.

will this NEW movie be played with more "stars" (so its faster), or was that only availible in Turbo? (or was that even an option in SSF2?)

No, SSF2 doesn't support 8 Star-Turbo. The speed I used in my both movies is the fastest possible.

I think I should cancel this submission as long as there is no room for both movies. I realized that Zangief has more combo possibilities than Ken but the Ken version is more entertaining because everyone knows him and his special moves especially the multi-Hurricane Kick is impressive. I still have to point out that this 2 movies are not the same: Zangief Version contains the 4 missing CPU fighters of the Ken Version (Chun Li, Blanka, Ryu, and Ken) so if you want to see all possible CPU Opponents you have to watch both movies since in a Super Battle are only 12 Fighters you have to beat of the 16 possible. The other reason is that obviosly much more people have watched (or at least shown interest) for the Ken Version than this one and it got a much better overall voting quote (92% of 30 Voters) with only 2 no votes which were accidentally done as the poster pointed out later. So has someone something to say to this points? Should I cancel this movie or not?

i REALLY liked this one more simply because zangief has massive variety. Ken is a much more familiar character for me, so seeing him (while it was well done) wasnt all that great. also, Zangief's laugh at the end of every battle would have been nice as a movie description (prolly just me :)) however, do what you must. it is a shame not many more fighting games are done here, and its nice to see someone like you who does quite well and doesnt give up easily. kudos, Saturn.

OK, if you really like this movie I won't cancel it. The judges should decide that themself. And I agree with you, fighting games can be very entertaining to watch if there are unexpect moves and alot variation. I would also like to see some movies from other people for that game and I hope Shakespeare can do one soon as he promised before.

Good movie, in my opinion...

At this summer, if I have nothing to do, I will indeed help you Saturn if you decide to do a new movie. Being a SF champion several several years ago (in stockholm of course), I still remember one special technique with Ken (according to me, the best character to kick azz with). The combo which your opponent had no chance in hell to avoid (if you don't already know this technique).