Topic by AngerFist

Posted: 5/16/2004 10:54 PM
(Edited: 8/18/2009 8:04 AM)

Post subject: Majora's Mask

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AngerFist

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wow Im so excited that I dont know where to begin :) Although Im a biiig fan of TSA (and still waiting for his speedrun on Majoras Mask) I think I may have found of pure luck a speedrun on, thats right: MAJORAS MASK!!! hope this link gets you guys right directly to it: http://speeddemosarchive.com/ZeldaMajorasMask.html enjoy!!!!!

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 5/16/2004 11:02 PM

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Deviance

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Joined: 3/8/2004
Posts: 706

Here's what TSA had to say about that run:

TSA wrote:

A run in which he dies and doesn't utilize the quick spin attack, and also does this rediculous Goron Roll for "short distances"...he has the path, but he's not "great". Good that he did it, though. Oh yeah - He did it segmented. I'm doing mine one run...show how it's really done.

Posted: 5/16/2004 11:04 PM

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AngerFist

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Deviance have u seen this run? its pretty nice considering the length of the game...

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 5/17/2004 10:39 AM

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qFox

Joined: 4/25/2004
Posts: 615
Location: The Netherlands

well since i'm at some point planning on playing and finishing this game myself, i'm not gonna watch any runs just yet, since they will spoil it. but any speedruns of games this long are plausible imo

qfox.nl

Posted: 5/17/2004 5:22 PM

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KaitouKid

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Joined: 6/6/2005
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and also does this rediculous Goron Roll for "short distances"... I found that to be hilariously stupid. In the time it takes him to apply and remove the mask, he could have walked the distance. I'd love asking him what the hell he was up to before smacking him silly for blatant time wasting. X.x

Posted: 5/17/2004 7:56 PM

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cat

Joined: 3/11/2004
Posts: 100
Location: Sweden

Maybe he only cares about in-game time units and the animation time while switching masks is not counted in there. That's the only reason I can think of. It looks kind of stupid with those extremely short rolls though. The goron mask takes up one yellow spot almost all the time and there is a lot of mask switching.

Posted: 5/14/2005 8:04 PM

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AngerFist

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Following the sda forum, Im very much pleased to announce that very soon, mr wizard himself The Silent Assassin is perhaps achiving a sub 4 hour run for Majoras Mask. But I know TSA will some other day obsolete his current run due to small errors he has done in his current run.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 5/14/2005 9:36 PM

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Zurreco

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Joined: 8/1/2004
Posts: 2687
Location: Seattle, WA

"Small errors" aren't what he is going to fix. He admits that he has already made a lot of errors that werent necessary in his current run. Something along the lines of a minute or so. Still, this looks like it will be much better than the current movie on the site.

hi nitrodon streamline: cyn-chine

Posted: 5/14/2005 11:02 PM

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AngerFist

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I hardly think when he has done the run and all the "small errors" will end up in 1 minute. And remember that this run is divided into several segments, so he could have redone certain segments but I can imagine on his tight schedule there is currently not so much time left for Majoras Mask.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 5/15/2005 12:44 AM

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Zurreco

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Joined: 8/1/2004
Posts: 2687
Location: Seattle, WA

Did you even read the thread at SDA? Here are some quotes from TSA based on his feedback: " Heh, oh yeah - you just have to get the Lens to talk to him. Arg, that's about 30 seconds I could have saved..." " Pretty good, but I am sure I missed something I could have done faster...(seeing as there is one thing per segment at least we've been finding). I'll keep the Darmani thing from Segment 5 in mind...cuz yeah, I can sort of redo it later." "I can live with this...this game is pretty easy to do so far, so perhaps down the road when I think of a better time to get, I will have stuff to improve on. It wasn't a mistake, just something I didn't know...so it's not horrible." etc etc. He isn't shooting for perfection like he did with OoT: he is only getting a movie out there that is faster than the current world record. He has already made a few errors that, although seemingly bad when compared to most oh TSA's runs, aren't unsalvageable. That means that he is accepting lots of flaws in his movie based simply on the fact that he plans to redo the run and clean it up once the summer is over.

hi nitrodon streamline: cyn-chine

Posted: 5/15/2005 7:27 AM

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TSA

Joined: 4/21/2004
Posts: 186

The two "flaws" so far (yes, I redid some parts) are the Darmani Ghost thing (because I saved over the file and can't go back to it) and stepping on the switch in Woodfall to activate the ladders (though it lets me aim quicker). So, 40 seconds from those two things...and perhaps another 20 from the other small things here and there so far. Again, like with The Minish Cap, this is more of an exploratory speed run - trying to just do one to see what I can get and then work from there. Sub 3 hours isn't happening in this game...but Sub 4 needs to be done from what I've learned so far. This run can't compete with the run up - he wasn't going for pure speed and I am sure he spent a lot of time on the first cycle doing stuff. I would recommend checking out the latest 2 segments...you can see Sequence Breaks in Majora's Mask now.

Posted: 6/2/2005 11:35 AM

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AngerFist

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Here it is. TSA finally finished his run for Majora's Mask. Enjoy! http://speeddemosarchive.com/demo.pl?ZeldaMajorasMask_413

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 8/2/2006 4:39 PM

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AngerFist

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There are a few persons who've showed interested in TASing this nice game. Petrie911 :) and AKA. I write this post hoping they or someone else will show further interest and hopefully begin working on it soon. So, anyone?

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 8/2/2006 5:25 PM

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Mitjitsu

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The only thing with TASing this game is that Mupen isn't ideal. I don't know all the tricks so I would need a lot of assistance and being able to conserve all these bombchus and bombs for the floating tricks could cause planning problems. I wonder if the game can be done without the inverted song of time since a day lasts about an hour so its probally more than possible to do it. I think this game could be completed in 2:15, and has a barage of tricks compared to OoT.

Posted: 8/2/2006 7:49 PM

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mwl

Joined: 3/22/2006
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I'll start researching this game in a week or two when I'll have more time. I'll begin with playing the game once more to refresh my memory, and then I'll look at what the great folks over at SDA have been coming up with and hopefully try to plan out an efficient TAS route.

Posted: 8/3/2006 4:41 AM

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kwinse

Joined: 5/13/2006
Posts: 283

I'd like to do a TAS of this, but I have no clue how to use the tools and whatnot... that and I'm not a vbery motivated person. <_<;;

<Zurreco> if so called professional players cant adapt to every playing field, theyre obviously not that great

Posted: 8/4/2006 9:08 AM

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Mitjitsu

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Actually, it would be best to play the the inverted song of time so delays from being told what time of day it is can be avoided more. Once the oath of order is obtained you can simply glitch into the top of the clock tower using the levatating trick. BTW you should try and get 130 ruppees at the start as a Deku, you simply put 31 in the bank. This means you can purchase a bombag and 20 bombchu's. This would also mean that bombchu's would have to be used very wisely as well.

Posted: 8/4/2006 9:24 AM

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cheetah_7071

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But don't you need to beat all four dungeons for the oath to order to have any effect? I haven't actually tried after just beating windfall, but.. I mean, it's easily possible to get up the tower non-glitchily without beating any dungeons: you do it in the first cycle. So they must have a check for dungeon beating.

Posted: 8/4/2006 5:30 PM

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Bag_of_Magic_Food

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Yeah, I don't think you can get to the moon unless you get all four giants to show up.

put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude

Posted: 8/5/2006 1:02 AM

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OmnipotentEntity

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You can't. I've tried after defeating each dungeon. If you don't have all four it just cut the time left to one minute (from five), where upon you have to warp or die.

Build a man a fire, warm him for a day, Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.

Posted: 8/22/2006 12:19 AM

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petrie911

Joined: 7/16/2006
Posts: 635

Well, I think I will TAS this game. After all, I've already done Great Bay Temple (feel free to comment on my work on that; any criticism is appreciated). The TAS route will probably be the same as the SS route, found here. If any of you guys see anything wrong/should be changed, feel free to say. There are a few things I'd like to have cleared up before running. 1) Should I get the Giant's Mask? Although it would look cool to have no Happy Masks, it's probably faster to get it, especially since we're getting the Gilded Sword, but incredible aim with arrows could solve that. 2) Should I get the Goron Mask? I know it sounds insane, but it IS possible to skip it. It just requires an extra 10 explosives and some extra bomb pickups in Snowhead (as well as some luck manipulation in the road to Ikana). On the other hand, skipping the Goron Mask cuts it down to 2 cycles, which leaves problems with funds. 3) and speaking of funds, we should consider alternate ways of making money. The lottery seems like a good option. Killing dodongos is another. 4) while odolwa, goht, and gyorg all have great strats, Twinmold is lacking. Even with a TAS, a perfect fight against them will be difficult, mostly because it's not clear what a perfect fight against them is. Some other concerns I have are that I am simply using the arrow keys for movement input, so my range of directions is a bit lacking. Also, Mupen tends to display every 3 frames for me. is there a way to get it to display every frame?

Posted: 8/22/2006 12:34 AM

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Atma

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petrie911 wrote:

any criticism is appreciated.

my criticism: you didn't link neither the .m64 nor the savestate here (both of which you should compress, generally together is best so its easier to find). You need to do that.

Posted: 8/22/2006 12:35 AM
(Edited: 8/22/2006 12:49 AM)

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DeHackEd

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Joined: 11/6/2004
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In the name of all things holy, PLEASE use a multi-platform plugin, like glN64 or Glide3d. Jabo's won't work on anything but windows with 3d acceleration. Edit: my web server (which runs microstorage) says there's an M64 link hidden somewhere on the youtube page.

Posted: 8/22/2006 12:37 AM

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Rising_Tempest

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The game is crap, but that video was pretty sweet. Maybe, a TAS of this wont be an utter bore as I initially thought.

Posted: 8/22/2006 12:37 AM

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AngerFist

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Im very excited you decided to TAS this Petrie :) Quick answers for your questions:

petrie911 wrote:

1) Should I get the Giant's Mask?

petrie911 wrote:

2) Should I get the Goron Mask?

Whatever is the fastest. With TASing, you can test a zillion times to determine the fastest route, getting a certain mask etc bla bla bla you know the story :)

petrie911 wrote:

4) while odolwa, goht, and gyorg all have great strats, Twinmold is lacking. Even with a TAS, a perfect fight against them will be difficult, mostly because it's not clear what a perfect fight against them is.

I would not worry too much. Im 100% confident that once you've reached the Twinmold battle, you will either a) figure something out or b) simply kill them quick as possible.

petrie911 wrote:

Also, Mupen tends to display every 3 frames for me. is there a way to get it to display every frame?

Nitsuja should be able to answer that.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P