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I'd like to see that. Can you upload the m64?
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guess what everyone i have given up on it the mupen64 file got corrupted and it wont play the file so i am now calling it quits maybe for a little while
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Well that was fast :/
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So I TASed a little and got to the path to the swamp, at ~9:50. That is including getting magic and milk road. Don't know if it's enough time to make it to SoS. Milk Road is really out of the way. So if there isn't enough time, maybe we would skip that? That would be about a 25s loss, but not the end of the world. Well guess we'll see. But I don't know if I'm going to TAS any further. I'm bad at it and coming up is enemy manipulation. I guess for damage you would have to take 1/4 big octo, 1/4 dragon flie boost up. That leaves 2 1/4 hearts to get rid of. From what I've seen 1/2 from 2 Kees should be relatively easy, then 1 1/2 from 3 Wolfos and 1/4 from the mini deku baba you get the nut from. Anywho, if anybody is interested in watching, or even continuing, here is the bkm.
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i am starting it back up again anyone interested in joining me i am one of the 7 unknown tas gods so you dont have to join
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oh thank gunder taseditor is here
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i am sticking with mupen because everytime i reset it desides to crash bizhawk who ever made bizhawk should really think about mm oh btw mm is easy to tas i have only got one desync and i am like 15 mins into the game who ever says mm is hard too tas then you must not be one of the 7 tas gods then :)
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New glitch found by Indextic to warp to owl statues that haven't been triggered: Link to video
"I almost shit my pants while watching this :O" MrGrunz said i'm sure you did MrGrunz knowing you also getting a massive stiffy over new Zelda MM stuff long time no see dont talk to the other 7 tas gods hey what happend dont like us anymore
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who ever says mm is hard too tas then you must not be one of the 7 tas gods then :)
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Guga wrote:
oblvionwalker wrote:
who ever says mm is hard too tas then you must not be one of the 7 tas gods then :)
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I think you should have a closer look at the dot I wrote.
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oblvionwalker wrote:
who ever says mm is hard too tas then you must not be one of the 7 tas gods then :)
Yeah have fun later on.
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Made it past the enemies. On one hand it isn't great, on the other I doubt that it can be done much better. https://mega.co.nz/#!eVoixbCL!byQtsmxvejgBaZ1WlKcTvWhpM7ZVZ8dcekYegMb21a0 10:25 now
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Looking at your input-file, it seems you did the TAS with a keyboard, not with TAS-plugin. It also says 1357 rerecords. I think you can do it a lot better than that.
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Everything before the scarecrow is unoptimised, since this is only for timing what can be done in the night of the first cycle. Even after, the optimisation isn't great, partly because I suck, partly since it doesn't have to be perfect for testing, hopefully. But I do TAS with the Virtual Pad from then on. I would have started from a state, but afaik Bizhawk still doesn't support that for N64. Edit: That also means those rerecords are only for the last 14700 frames, of which half is just walking in a straight line through termina field. So I did put a little effort into that, even if it maybe wasn't a lot. :D
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So I did not make it to the Deku Palace. Sadly I made it so close that I can't say with certainty, that a better TASer couldn't make it. Although I doubt it. I know put together I dropped a fuckton of frames, but probably not enough to make it relevant. Would be nice if a better TASer could look at the TAS and tell me what he thinks *cough* MrGrunz *cough* GlitchesAndStuff *cough* Youtube Video BKM So if it's not doable to get magic and go to milk road and make it to Deku Palace before midnight, we'd need to drop either getting magic or visiting milk road. For magic you'd get it after being telefported back to CT. For milk road you'd soar there (clock town gives you milk road), probably right before soaring to snowhead. What of the two would be faster, I can't say. Both alone should give you sufficiant time to make it to the deku palace, though. Rough guesstimation puts both at about an hour of game time. Give or take a little. That is enough to make it and hopefully not so much that you would have to wait for the midnight CS, if you are a better TASer than me. I hope this meets your approval, TASeditor. ;) PS: During this whole thing I only had one desync and I could actually fix that by adding an extra frame of no input to the bkm with a text editor. I'd say that is a huge improvement compared to mupen. Edit: But thinking about it, the RTA route might actually be faster... aaaaaaaaand now I'm sad. Great.
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On the run you made, it seems suboptimal. I could feel some angles could have been better
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On the run you made, it seems suboptimal. I could feel some angles could have been better
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Are you trying to get Song of Soaring first cycle? Or just activate some points on the map to use the wrong warping glitch with? I'm not too familiar with the new routing since the soaring glitch discovery, so please fill me in. And assuming it is possible to get to Deku Palace in time, what would the method of getting back to Clock Town be? Death warp? edit: I read your posts Slowking.... :(
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Okay since somebody actually reads my posts. :) For this route ideally you'd want to do a few things in last night of the first cycle before 12pm: - Get magic - Go to Milk Road to activate Lon Lon Ranch on the map for wrong soaring - Go to Deku Palace to activate that - Get Song of Soaring After that you'd death warp back to Clock Town, which is why I damage myself down to 3/4. There is still mandatory damage coming up, 1/4 from big Octo and 1/4 from dragon fly from a boost that skips a lot of deku flying. So that leaves 1/4 and that leads to a quick death. The death warp is possible because the clock tower opening cutscene sets your last entrance back to central clock town. So when you die you end up there. But that is also the problem. For that to work, you can't load a new map after the CS has played. Which means you'd have to make it to deku apalace and back out again before midnight. That does not seem to be possible. Even though my TAS was bad, and I know it was. I probably didn't waste enough time for a better TASer to be able actually get to the palace. (btw time runs faster in first cycle, just in case people don't know) So to make it, you'd have to drop either magic or milk road and do them later. Magic you can get after you death warp back to CT. Milk Road, you can soar to later at any time, as Clock Town gives you the milk road soar. Don't really know what would be faster. If we did this, in cycle 2 we would soar to great bay, get zora mask, activate zora hall, soar to mountain village, activate goron city, soar to Stone Tower, jump down, make our way to the witches, get the bottle, then go to deku palace again. The zora mask would make the swamp faster, but there is still a lot of redundant stuff. So as much as it pains me, I'm not sure if that route is actually faster anymore. We do add quite a few transition scenes and two intro cutscenes and don't even get everything done we'd like to. Also you can't be directly at the clock tower at midnight and you probably won't even make it to SoS before midnight, so that is all time lost. It might be a good idea to do the beginning of cycle 2 like the RTA route (current WR). That way is kinda painfull, since it blows a boatload of explosives for a wrong warp, but it is really convenient that that wrong warp puts you directly in the deku palace. If we did this we'd probably get ~179r in cycle one instead of going to the swamp. I think we should have enough time to make it to milk road and get magic, though. We'd do one trip around the south, and bop into milk road, then do the usual trip around the north and deliver the fairy. At least from my guesstimations that should be doable. Well at least you'd make it back to CT in time and even if you need to spend some time after 12 to get to the tower, it's probably still faster than soaring to milk road later.
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Maybe it's a stupid question, but is it possible to obtain the song of soaring in the first cycle without the ocarina?
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