Player (206)
Joined: 5/29/2004
Posts: 5712
That's just it. A lot of us like when the player uses "WTF" tactics to win faster, even if it means whining "Oh I can't see where the walls are" or "Oh that could have been 'no-death'".
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Joined: 4/24/2005
Posts: 476
Entertainment, especially in the case of warpless vs. warp runs.
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Player (86)
Joined: 3/8/2005
Posts: 973
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
IMO.... Some games are entertaining if done As fast as possible. (Like Megaman/Rockman). But when i do my Holy diver, I will do a full Non-hit run. while taking a hit may improve it by a few frames, it wouldn't be as impressive. If you have ever played the game, it seems impossible to not take a hit.
Player (21)
Joined: 10/14/2005
Posts: 317
Dr. Morbis wrote:
Dragon Warrior is a good example of this issue. By going through all of the dungeons/caves in the dark, it is obviously the fastest way to complete the game. But the movie would be much more entertaining if the author spent that extra fraction of a second needed to light up the caves (I don't remember at what level you get radiant, but having to buy torches would complicate things). It may make the run a bit longer, but it would be much more entertaining.
Fraction of a second? No. Genisto/Acmlm go into dungeons at least four times, I recall torches are one-use each (and besides the torch hardly provides much viewing range), and Radiant isn't learned until level 9. I have a better idea that could maybe satisfy Dr. Morbis or anyone curious about the dungeon paths. Genisto or Acmlm: When making your movies did you use a Game Genie code or some sort of patch code that turns on Radiant (or possibly gives a full viewport beyond Radiant) without affecting the timing? If so, please post that code. We could even go as far as encoding an alternate version of the AVI with the code turned on. -hanzou
Player (206)
Joined: 5/29/2004
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But people might say that's cheeeeeeeeeatiiiiiiiiiing!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
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Experienced player (761)
Joined: 5/6/2005
Posts: 3132
There may be an emulator option - in SNES9x, I turned off transparency (the '9' key) to make a dark level light. But I don't think it needs a seperate AVI, myself. Edit: Might as well answer the forum topic question. To me, it's usually speed, but it depends on the goals of the run. The biggest example I've experienced is in the Super Demo World runs I've worked on - for the short, 15-exit run, speed was of primary importance, including reducing lag, etc. at the cost of some possible entertainment. Now in the 120-exit run (which is over 2 hours), I realized that entertainment can really make a long run, well, better. The same ideas were used for the Super Mario World warpful and 100% runs. As FODA said, just don't make it look slower.
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Active player (267)
Joined: 4/11/2004
Posts: 86
Location: Quebec,Canada
About Dragon Warrior. I just found myself a code enabling Radiant, but of course, it change the random. I tried it in my last version: the code work well, but I got a battle at frame 55114 (at the end of the last dungeon) the random begin to change at frame 54662. To enable the effect of Radiant: Goto the Cheats option Put 00D0 in the address field Put 007 in the Value field Push Add then Close If there is a + in the Cheats field: the code will work
Joined: 12/29/2005
Posts: 119
alexpenev wrote:
Entertainment. I can't tell the difference between a 43:11.07 and a 43:10.07. But if that 1 extra second is used to pull off some fancy trick, the movie will be more memorable.
w0rd. Entertainment is far more important to me in every single run.
SXL
Joined: 2/7/2005
Posts: 571
I caught myself wondering why some runs don't last more, as I was fascinated by the action and asking for more... example : Umihara Kawase's long run over the short one.
I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death - NAS