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Posted: 2/18/2012 1:22 AM

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funnyhair

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Just do it as if you took the game out of its case for the first time, having never played it before. Then you put the game into the system, power on, and become amazing at it.

[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool

Posted: 2/18/2012 1:34 AM

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itsPersonnal

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ok well I had a memory card when I first played the game so I guess I'm using a blank one. Makes sense because I can do a hard mode TAS later using the TAS I'm doing now to unlock hard mode (also I could skip cutscenes on hard mode!!!! ^____^)

Completed: 2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes 2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23 2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87 2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time) 2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350 2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10 2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567 Currently working on: METROID PRIME ANY%

Posted: 2/18/2012 1:37 AM

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Miles

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Or, you know, just don't submit it here and do whatever you want.

Posted: 2/19/2012 7:35 PM

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itsPersonnal

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pU1q3nSf-k This "hopping" dash trick is awesome ^_^ Edit: I'm roughly 2.5 seconds ahead of mrspeedrun and I'm going to redo the end of this room so save about .3 to .5 seconds, I enjoy destroying his "TAS"

Completed: 2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes 2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23 2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87 2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time) 2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350 2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10 2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567 Currently working on: METROID PRIME ANY%

Posted: 2/20/2012 8:53 AM

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Acheron86

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Don't be too hard on the guy. It was a nice first attempt, and optimizing this game is fairly new. That said, I'm impressed so far. Are you working on this regularly? I know you were doing some stuff with SA2...

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Posted: 2/20/2012 10:11 AM

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AngerFist

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I think it was Drewseph or someone else who discovered that bunny hopping. Nevertheless, that was very nice. It feels like when you are jumping like that, you are maintaing the speed of the dash. So it looks like we are getting more familiar how dashing could look (at least partially depending on the situation) in a tas.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 2/20/2012 4:23 PM

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itsPersonnal

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Acheron86 wrote:

Are you working on this regularly? I know you were doing some stuff with SA2...

sonicpacker didn't want me to help in his full game SA2B TAS so the only SA2B stuff I'm doing is a video quiz that start a week or two ago for SA2B (And non-TAS speedruns for TSC) And I will work on this TAS a fair bit, but don't think that means I'm going to be making progress quickly, I need to test EVERYTHING in every room and try and find the fastest way through, obviously some rooms will be easy if its just a hallway with no scan points or anything to dash off of, but rooms like the first room could take days, I'm still working on the first room because I lost about .4 seconds turning around to look at the door and I'm trying dash to the door facing the other direction (which I think can be done but literally is like pixel perfect because this room was made just to troll me apparently <_<)

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Posted: 2/21/2012 12:13 AM

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amaurea

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itsPersonnal wrote:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pU1q3nSf-k This "hopping" dash trick is awesome ^_^ Edit: I'm roughly 2.5 seconds ahead of mrspeedrun and I'm going to redo the end of this room so save about .3 to .5 seconds, I enjoy destroying his "TAS"

Finally an optimized take on Metroid Prime! Keep up the good work, and keep us posted on your progress. I've been looking forward to a good Metroid Prime TAS for a long time, and it looks to be in good hands now. :) Edit: Are you using memory watch to keep a track on your position and velocity, by the way? Directly watching your speed makes it much easier to keep the highest speed possible, and may help you discover tricks similar to super mario world's jumping trick.

Posted: 2/26/2012 6:36 PM

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itsPersonnal

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Afaik MHS doesn't work with dolphin so I have no idea how I would keep track of my speed... and also here's what I got done in a live stream yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-6K30n3m3Y Youtube kinda raped the quality so yeah <_< also if you can't tell I'm on left ;) And here is a very unoptimized TAS of SJF on the left side that a friend of mine made in like 20 minutes the other day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvfO7XY2C6s (he's going to be helping me do the full game TAS)

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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:04 PM

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AngerFist

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Your friend is swell :) Nice vids mate. Keep up the fine work.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 2/28/2012 2:29 AM

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itsPersonnal

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsVoxLfigxo First 4 rooms WIP This video is like half public lol, I uploaded it on my back up channel with only a few subscriptions. so I guess I half lied on saying that I won't put up a public WIP til I get to PQ :P Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDL9HQ48I8 First 4 rooms WIP (With audio) Ok now I've lied 100%, I forgot to log off my main channel when I uploaded this and I'm lazy so I'll leave it as public ;)

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Posted: 2/28/2012 7:53 AM

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amaurea

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itsPersonnal wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDL9HQ48I8

I have some comments:

In the first room, you seem to hit a corner before the last door, making you lose your speed. Can this be avoided? Or doesn't it matter because you need time to shoot the door and wait for it to open?
Are you sure you are entering the doors with top speed as early as possible? In the third room it looks like you are doing this properly, by backing up from the door and starting to move so that you reach the door with full speed on the first frame it is open (or perhaps one frame to late? It is hard to see on the video).
In the last room, you roll towards the door, unmorph and shoot the door, and then hit the door before it opens, robbing you of your speed. Then you have to wait for the door to open. Couldn't you have unmorphed and shot the door earlier, so that you don't have to wait for the door, and don't loose your speed by running into it? If not, it should at least be possible to enter the door at higher speed by backing up from the door and starting to move towards it slightly before it opens, so that you go through it at top speed on the first frame possible.
In the third room you stop moving while scanning the target. Is this necessary? And can't you get a boost out of the target?

Posted: 2/28/2012 1:15 PM

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itsPersonnal

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First room: it WAS the fastest frame to morph on believe it or not 2nd Room: ... 3rd Room: once you scan that target there is a set amount time before you can even activate the door, so because I can I just morphed there to "show off" or something :P And I did roll through the door on the first frame 4th Room: much like the 3rd room I have to wait a certain amount of time before the door loads, so there isn't a "faster" method of doing it, but that said I can back up and walk through the door so that I am going at full walking speed when I enter the next room which I was planning on doing I just didn't yet

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Posted: 3/2/2012 5:04 AM

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itsPersonnal

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well now we can say ptorflaxendrosis has helped with this TAS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acsDhL_P0q0 Heads up for those interested, me and ptorflaxendrosis will be streaming this TAS being made live on my twitch.tv channel with possible commentary. It will be randomly throughout the week starting on the 11th to the 17th (we also might stream this weekend too) http://www.twitch.tv/itsPersonnaltoo

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Posted: 3/2/2012 3:48 PM

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Toothache

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99oKreJadkk Looks like Metroid Prime's AI can be exploited to keep its eyes open all the time.

Posted: 3/2/2012 4:26 PM

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ptorflaxendrosis

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afaik, people already knew about that, but it will make the Prime fight a lot easier to TAS.

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Posted: 3/2/2012 4:33 PM
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AngerFist

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That was new to me. Thanks for the link Mr. Tooth. Mileas, never cease to amaze me ^_^ <3 Edit: His name is Miles, not Mileas :)

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 3/3/2012 8:52 PM

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ptorflaxendrosis

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AngerFist wrote:

That was new to me. Thanks for the link Mr. Tooth. Mileas, never cease to amaze me ^_^ <3

Miles is amazing, there's no doubt about that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S20GUbLqcwA Here's a WIP, I got past the elevator, and we pulled off a funky bomb jump.

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Posted: 3/3/2012 10:22 PM

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petrie911

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Are you going for ingame time or real time? Because if it's the latter, you can skip the elevator activation cutscene by exiting the room right as the scan finishes.

Posted: 3/3/2012 10:47 PM

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Vykan12

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Miles is amazing, there's no doubt about that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S20GUbLqcwA Here's a WIP, I got past the elevator, and we pulled off a funky bomb jump.

Now this is what an optimized MP TAS is supposed to look like :)

Posted: 3/4/2012 1:59 AM

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Rolanmen1

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Love it. O_O

Posted: 3/4/2012 4:04 AM

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itsPersonnal

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petrie911 wrote:

Are you going for ingame time or real time? Because if it's the latter, you can skip the elevator activation cutscene by exiting the room right as the scan finishes.

Yeah we both knew of this already but we are going for ingame time :P

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Posted: 3/4/2012 9:03 PM

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ais523

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Haha, that's a neat combat dash before even entering the ship; it's surprising what sort of unexpected tricks come up absolutely everywhere when you TAS. What's the window for getting that like, I wonder?

Posted: 3/4/2012 10:04 PM

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itsPersonnal

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I assume that you're talking about the "saw dash"? it can be done non-TAS and has been done non-TAS in a few speedruns, to do one non-TAS just do an R dash and then mash B while holding R + L If you're talking about the "unnamed trick that lets you jump lower" the trick is done by pressing R and left/right when in mid air, pressing left/right makes you dash to the side and cuts off your upward speed, but R locks your momentum so you just kinda R jump but get much less height, it could be helpful somewhere (and yeah you need a lock to do this trick)

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Posted: 3/4/2012 10:12 PM

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ais523

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I was talking about the dash you did off the sixth target unlocking that door (which involved not shooting the target until the last moment).