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Posted: 8/4/2006 12:42 AM
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Kapow
Joined: 9/17/2005
Posts: 47
Gigafrost wrote:
It is possible he isn't a dishonest scumbag, but even in the case I'm envisioning he'd still be an idiot. (Basically, if the video he posted is one he downloaded from some other site, and that site is the one that did the actual editting, he's not as bad off.)
His name and website are shown during the game credits. If you check out his blog, he hyped the run before uploading it:
SonicAdvDX wrote:
I have the stars that are the fastest to get perfectly mapped out, and I'm training my jumping skills more than thought humanly possible. And, the best part is, if I can perfect my gameplay soon enough, you will get the video very soon.
SonicAdvDX wrote:
Pretty much all of that day was spent either training myself with Super Mario 64 or playing Spyro with Lauren. I've gotten myself down to about twenty minutes, but I'm still not performing so perfectly.
SonicAdvDX wrote:
True Accomplishments No, not stuff like being rich, getting married, or having kids... I mean TRUE accomplishments. Such as, oh, I don't know; beating Super Mario 64 in 18 Minutes!
SonicAdvDX wrote:
For most people, this is exactly what life is; one big popularity contest. Well, guess what little boys and girls? I'm winning! *malicious laugh* I've got readers from across the globe, and I've even made it onto the so very popular 1Up website, with my Super Mario 64 video!
Pathetic beyond words.
Posted: 8/4/2006 12:55 AM
Post subject: Problem solved.
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Halamantariel
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Good news guys! I had a little chat with SonicAdvDX, and he finally agreed to delete the stolen Mario 64 video. Here's a transcript of our "chat session": 
Halamantariel said (08:30 pm) :
Hi. you don't know me, and I don't know you, but I know you stole your Mario 64 video from tasvideos.org and it's not cool.

Halamantariel said (08:31 pm) :
Please remove it or put the right video (without covering the text in it) and cite the right source.

Halamantariel said (08:35 pm) :
ignore me if you wish, but know that the people on tasvideos.org do not intend to let you keep this video like it is.

Halamantariel said (08:36 pm) :
they're not going to let you say that it's your video that you made yourself and bla bla bla. You might have noticed the comments on your youtube account already.
forms have been filled complaining about copyright infringement, just so you know.
they're not happy about this.
(and I'm one of them)

Halamantariel said (08:41 pm) :
the least you could do is reply ONCE ...

SonicAdvDX said (08:41 pm) :
Is this concerning the Super Mario video?

Halamantariel said (08:42 pm) :
yes it is concerning the Super Mario 64 video that you STOLE from tasvideos.org and claimed as your own.

SonicAdvDX said (08:42 pm) :
Actually, I did not steal it. My step brother did, and put it under my name. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about it.
Do you know how to delete videos from YouTube?

Halamantariel said (08:43 pm) :
I don't know. Try writing to Youtube officials or something
just get rid of this video, and fast. And tell your precious admirers and fans that you're a phony

SonicAdvDX said (08:43 pm) :
Well, do you have an account? I know the password, I just don't know how to delete videos.
Again, this wasn't posted by me.
It's my step brother.

Halamantariel said (08:44 pm) :
I do have an account, but I don't have any vidoes.

Halamantariel said (08:45 pm) :
worst case scenario: give me your password and I'll find a way to delete it.
To remove one of your videos, simply log in, go to http://www.youtube.com/my_videos and click on the 'Remove Video' button next to the video you'd like to remove. You are only able to remove videos that you have uploaded.

SonicAdvDX said (08:45 pm) :
Hold on, I might have it right here.
Oh, okay, hold on.

Halamantariel said (08:46 pm) :
tell me when it's removed.

SonicAdvDX said (08:46 pm) :
Thanks for your help.
It should be gone now.

Halamantariel said (08:46 pm) :
verifying..

Halamantariel said (08:47 pm) :
it's removed.
Thanks.

SonicAdvDX said (08:47 pm) :
No, thank you!
I'm so sick of telling people that it wasn't me. My dick step brother put my screen name at the end of that video and I've never heard the end of it.
I appreciate it.

Halamantariel said (08:47 pm) :
Thanks for deleting this video, and sorry if I was rude on anything.

SonicAdvDX said (08:47 pm) :
Well, you haven't been.

SonicAdvDX said (08:48 pm) :
But, some "erokdrah" guy is hasslin' me about it.

Halamantariel said (08:48 pm) :
I've told him to stop it.

SonicAdvDX said (08:48 pm) :
Appreciate it.

Halamantariel said (08:49 pm) :
I'll be going now. Have a good day!

SonicAdvDX said (08:49 pm) :
Well, thanks again, man. Maybe now I can return to a normal instant messaging lifestyle. XD I appreciate your help.
Posted: 8/4/2006 1:51 AM
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Kapow
Joined: 9/17/2005
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Actually, I did not steal it. My step brother did, and put it under my name.
HAHAHHAHAH right and his step brother wrote all that on his blog, too. Classic.
Posted: 8/4/2006 4:24 AM
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JXQ
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Morrison wrote:
I'm doubting the effectiveness of the flame comments
They can actually be surprisingly effective against someone who is purposely creating misinformation, as those people usually aren't the brightest. Or, their "step-brother", in this case.
<Swordless> Go hug a tree, you vegetarian (I bet you really are one)
Posted: 8/4/2006 5:11 AM
Post subject: OK
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pirate_sephiroth
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I can't wait for the next SonicAdvDX's speed run!
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:18 AM
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Dada
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I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:23 AM
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Bisqwit
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Omega wrote:
I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
I do appreciate that I don't have to do everything myself ^_^
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:28 AM
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JXQ
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If someone maliciously tries to copy content from here, and all they get is "gosh it'd be great if you would remove this video" with no follow-up, we get nowhere. It's how the world works. A different tactic was used, which brought fast attention to the fact that this community was aware of the video and it's malice to the community, which allowed positive action to be taken in removing it. I've learned that many people underestimate what a flame response can achieve, or overestimate what being polite can achieve.
<Swordless> Go hug a tree, you vegetarian (I bet you really are one)
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:30 AM
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Omega wrote:
I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
You can't boss people around , if fans stick up for Bisqwit that is good.
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:35 AM
Post subject: sright, but
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pirate_sephiroth
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Anyway, I'd like to point that Graviteh is the gossipmonger for TASVideos.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
Posted: 8/4/2006 6:36 AM
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yeah , if it wasnt for him that video would of remained up for a longer while then it should.
Posted: 8/4/2006 7:20 AM
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Morrison
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JXQ wrote:
I've learned that many people underestimate what a flame response can achieve, or overestimate what being polite can achieve.
Personally, I would be better persuaded by a polite and reasonable request rather than by flames. I'd say that the flame response might work in certain situations, but I don't think it's probably the best way to begin a dispute since there's a good chance that the situation can start to very ugly real fast. It's better to at least start out in a civil manner; save the brute tactics for later if polite requests do not work. It would be nice if people didn't start at the level of flaming his YouTube profile to get him to delete the vid removed because it doesn't reflect well on the community as a whole as Omega pointed out. I'd also like to point out that it was Halamantariel's tactful conversation that got our desired result--not the flames.
twitch.tv/Retrogaming2084
Posted: 8/4/2006 7:22 AM
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JXQ
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Morrison wrote:
Personally, I would be better persuaded by a polite and reasonable request rather than by flames.
You probably wouldn't steal work off of the site, either.
I'd also like to point out that it was Halamantariel's tactful conversation that got our desired result--not the flames.
This is true. I guess I should revise myself to say that the flaming is more of an attention grabber than a problem solver. Both have their place.
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Posted: 8/4/2006 9:16 AM
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Aww, look at all the bad stuff this poor guy had to put up with from you, just because of what his dick step brother did. :( It's just like what happened to omniswarrior, and Cinderella. I think this line says it all: "Maybe now I can return to a normal instant messaging lifestyle."
Posted: 8/4/2006 9:13 PM
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graviteh
Joined: 4/14/2005
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The flaming is usually intended (IMO) to bring tell the offender that "We aren't fucking around". I really think it should be used as a last resort, and even then it needs to be clever.
yeah , if it wasnt for him that video would of remained up for a longer while then it should.
It doesn't matter how long a video is up there, what matters is that people become aware of who made it, either by editing the description to admit he didnt make it. If the person is not willing to give credit where credit is due, then we can make his reputation on the internet really negative as a work thief.
Posted: 8/4/2006 9:46 PM
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Truncated wrote:
Aww, look at all the bad stuff this poor guy had to put up with from you, just because of what his dick step brother did. :( It's just like what happened to omniswarrior, and Cinderella. I think this line says it all: "Maybe now I can return to a normal instant messaging lifestyle."
yeah , I doubt I believe that stuff he said about his step brother doing this after watching the video and alll those comments. Pff yeah right, he probably enjoys all the attention that is probably why he did it.
Posted: 8/5/2006 5:06 AM
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graviteh
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Nonetheless, his entire family sucks, they can't even keep a marriage!
Posted: 8/5/2006 7:06 PM
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Dada
Joined: 11/22/2004
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HiddenGamer wrote:
Omega wrote:
I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
You can't boss people around , if fans stick up for Bisqwit that is good.
It's not my intention to "boss people around", but rather to remind them that it isn't always desirable to start flaming away when it is found that someone plagiarized material found on TASVideos.
graviteh wrote:
Nonetheless, his entire family sucks, they can't even keep a marriage!
The issue has been resolved; can this please not turn into a mud fight?
Posted: 8/5/2006 7:12 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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No. It's always desirable to flame!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Posted: 8/5/2006 7:31 PM
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Ramzi
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Bag of Magic Food wrote:
No. It's always desirable to flame!
Says you, commie.
Posted: 8/5/2006 7:34 PM
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JXQ
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I always thought that calling it "flaming" was a retarded name.
<Swordless> Go hug a tree, you vegetarian (I bet you really are one)
Posted: 8/5/2006 7:38 PM
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Exactly!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Posted: 8/5/2006 10:11 PM
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Morrison
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JXQ wrote:
I always thought that calling it "flaming" was a retarded name.
Does anyone know where the use of "flame" as an insult originated? I'm just curious because it seems like an odd term to use.
twitch.tv/Retrogaming2084
Posted: 8/6/2006 6:42 AM
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'Cause ya got BURNED!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Posted: 8/6/2006 6:31 PM
Post subject: Flaming
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Morrison wrote:
JXQ wrote:
I always thought that calling it "flaming" was a retarded name.
Does anyone know where the use of "flame" as an insult originated? I'm just curious because it seems like an odd term to use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming I wouldn't have believed his "not me" story either but it doesn't matter now. He probably caved in once he started getting hassled over it.
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