Topic by Tompa

Posted: 1/22/2007 9:00 PM

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When I'm tempering my sword I've got some spare time while they fix it. I'm not sure what I "have" to do before I can get it back. As walking in and out don't work, maybe a lot of times though, not sure. But that could be a time to get some money at the chest game. Anyway, how many arrows are needed to kill Ganon? Don't remember and can't be arsed to play through Parallel Tower again to check it out, ehe... ;D. I think it was somewhere around 20... I'm going to get two arrow upgrades, as my plan is at the moment anyway. In case no one says different:). A video that makes it to the Parallel World will come later today. EDIT: About the rupees (Again...). I need 50 for the Zora Scale, 10 to temper my sword, 100 for the bomb to Nabooros's Hole (Or whatever it spells...) and... something more? I've taken some rupees in the chest game near the dwarves: -30+100+50-30+50+A bomb (Actually needed one, ehe... ;D)= Have 276. Going to manipulate 24 rupees in the run later. What do you say about it?=P In a real run you will glitch over the holes, so you will save some bombs. And you can manipulate two 100 rupees from the chest game, I just couldn't bother... EDIT: Light world done

Posted: 1/23/2007 4:13 AM

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Tompa wrote:

When I'm tempering my sword I've got some spare time while they fix it. I'm not sure what I "have" to do before I can get it back. As walking in and out don't work, maybe a lot of times though, not sure.

You need to walk (swim) out of the overworld area the smithy's house is in and come back. In LttP it's quick and easy since the house is right by a screen transition.

Posted: 1/23/2007 7:41 AM

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Yes, I found out =P. I did that in the run that I posted in my earlier post as well. Now it's time for the trickier part. I have no idea what route that's best :O. I'll test some things... EDIT: I'll test to go to Impa's Ways first, as it's very close. I don't think I shall bother taking the Ice Rod. Take too long to get it. So I'll just go into the dungeon, go out at Hidden Ruins to get the Ether and then kill the boss. And after that... We'll see... I think I shall take a trip to Darunia's Dungeon before I finish Impa's, that would be the fastest I presume.. EDIT 2: Darunia's Dungeon is done I was thinking... Are the crystals really neccesary at all?:O In A Link to the Past you need them to get inside Ganon's Tower, but haven't noticed anywhere where I need them... You need some to get the power bomb, right...? Not sure about this... I can try one run that'll finish the dungeons, and one that only finish what I need to get the power bomb and just take the item in the dungeon. EDIT 3: Impa's Ways done as well... http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3541/Parallel%20Worlds.smv

Posted: 1/23/2007 5:37 PM

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I don't know what triggers the availability of the super bomb. All I know is I completed the fire rod dungeon first and it was available.

Posted: 1/23/2007 5:39 PM

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Kaz wrote:

I don't know what triggers the availability of the super bomb. All I know is I completed the fire rod dungeon first and it was available.

Seems like beating *a* dungeon opens it up for sale, I beat the 7th dungeon (shieks hideout or whatever), and it was on sale after that.

Posted: 1/23/2007 6:21 PM

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Do you want me to finish the full run first? Or shall I do the "no crystal" run first? As I don't see why I need them, I think you can finish it without. Anyway, what dungeon next? I could go to the dungeon that needs the Ehter medallion to enter, don't know the name... I don't remember what it is in the dungeon :O. Is it the one you get the fire rod in? I want to go to that dungeon:D. Any comments on the run so far? EDIT: Also when is the best time to upgrade the arrows..? I could go there as late as just before Ganon, and getting the Master Sword meanwhile. Or else I can get it in the dark world instead. Any ideas?^^

Posted: 1/23/2007 8:07 PM

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According to author of this hack crystals do have some use, but they ain't necessary for completing the game.

Posted: 1/23/2007 8:22 PM

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So they is good for something? :OI haven't found out anyway. Ok. Do you want me to do all dungeons, or just finish the game? I will do both, just wondering which one you want to see first:).

Posted: 1/23/2007 8:29 PM

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I'd like to see a run which just attempts to finish the game. I don't enjoy watching 100% runs too much. And about tablets/crystals/whatever, dunno if there's really any secret behind them besides collecting them all. Maybe author was just teasing :P Can't say anything for sure, though.

Posted: 1/23/2007 8:32 PM

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It's not going to be a 100% run, not at all :O. 1. A low % with no crystals. 2. Any %, taking all the crystals. 3. 100%, all items and stuff. And I'm doing 1 and 2. Which one of them shall I do first?=P

Posted: 1/23/2007 9:00 PM

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Ah, good :P Go for number 2. :)

Posted: 1/24/2007 10:45 AM

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Bah, forgot a thing about the rupees... There's a room in Saria's Dungeon with like 200 rupees in it which you have to pass. Oh well, that would be fixed for a real run I presume. I'm not done with the route yet, it such a pain. I think that what I've done so far, is fine. But after that, hmm... Shiek's Hideout is a real pain without the magic cape or mirror shield. Saria's Garden's is also quite hard with low on health...

Posted: 1/24/2007 11:01 AM

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Tompa wrote:

Bah, forgot a thing about the rupees... There's a room in Saria's Dungeon with like 200 rupees in it which you have to pass. Oh well, that would be fixed for a real run I presume. I'm not done with the route yet, it such a pain. I think that what I've done so far, is fine. But after that, hmm... Shiek's Hideout is a real pain without the magic cape or mirror shield. Saria's Garden's is also quite hard with low on health...

Irony being you get the magic cape in shieks hideout of course. Also, Rauru's Ruins has the big gorons bracelets, since you said you had forgotten what it contained (and wether or not it'd be required to at least partially do). So far, the most useless dungeon seems to be impas ways in terms of item not needed (ice rod), although said item is extremely good at killing sand worms. Oh, and ruto's fortress. waste of time I'd think, although you can get the key+big chest relatively fast (blue armor), but i'd still say not overly worthwhile.

Posted: 1/24/2007 12:31 PM

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I found out on the IRC what item the dungeon had. As it was the only one left ;D. I'm taking a different way inside Ruto's Fortress, so I'll have to go back to the real entrance to get the big key, so I won't bother about the blue mail=P. You'll see my shortcut when I'm posting the WIP that includes that dungeon, HE HE. In case you don't find out yourself =). In Shiek's Hideout... There's one place that is a real pain without the cape. But you can do it without, but I need 9 hearts... =P, or a bottle with a fairy. So it's a bit of a problem.

Posted: 1/24/2007 2:04 PM

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Tompa wrote:

It's not going to be a 100% run, not at all :O. 1. A low % with no crystals. 2. Any %, taking all the crystals. 3. 100%, all items and stuff. And I'm doing 1 and 2. Which one of them shall I do first?=P

I vote for #2

Posted: 1/25/2007 12:22 PM

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Only one wants nr 1 (Atma ;D) so I will finish the game with all the crystals first. I'm getting somewhere with my route now, hurray. Will post it later today. EDIT: Just found a neat glitch that allows you to skip the Fire Rod in the Parallel Tower: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3568/FireRodSKip.smv Quite neat:). EDIT again: Bah, you need the fire rod anyway. So it doesn't worked, too bad, it was nice:D. Here's my route that I will use unless someone else says different: Dark World: Impa's Ways Ether Medallion Darunia's Cave, Cane of Somaria, Heart container Finish Impa's Ways. S&Q Kakariko Village: Take the bow + a heart container Buy super bomb Nabooru's Hole. If S&Q is faster than walking, then use it. Saria's Gardens, Fire Rod If S&Q is faster than walking, then use it. Heart container in ?'s house Get key in beach cave. Get key at the Lake. Upgrade sword and magic. Rauru's dungeon Either S&Q, or take the cave to get to the church, not sure about which is fastest. Key in church + bottle (If needed, not sure yet...) Ruto's Fortress S&Q Shiek's Hideout, Magic Cape Parallel Tower, mirror Light world: S&Q to house, go to the forest and get the key S&Q to house again, take the key in the rebel hideout S&Q to house, go and take the key at pyramid falls + arrow upgrades. Either walk from there to the tower, or else S&Q.

Posted: 1/27/2007 8:46 AM

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Saria's Gardens done: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3600/Parallel%20Worlds.smv That was a realy pain! I need to take hearts all the time... But I did it, lol. I like the glitchy boss scen=). Was because I used a bomb, heh. EDIT: I'm now done with Rauru's too. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3600/Parallel%20Worlds.smv Five crystals, two more to go! First I'll head to the church, get the key in there and possible the bottle... Not sure if I need it or not. After that, I'll glitch into Ruto's Fortress :).

Posted: 1/28/2007 12:12 PM

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Ruto's Fortress is also done. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3606/Parallel%20Worlds.smv I don't think that bottle is going to neccesary, but we'll see... I took it anyway:).

Posted: 1/28/2007 7:56 PM

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Have to watch the whole run once you finish making it. I'm getting little frustrated in some dungeons; Darunia being nice example as I'm short of one small key. Oh, and any tips would be good for that one room with eyes above each door plus no room to dodge them as there are plenty of blocks. It's just before going to next floor which has the keydoor requiring small key. (Talking about in Darunia by the way) And... some help for Impa's Ways would be appreciated. I've found a tablet and one of the big keys (the one for big chest I think) already but I can't really proceed.. too many teleports going back to entrances and such.

Posted: 1/28/2007 8:03 PM

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Darunia's Dungeon: If you walk with your head up/down, the eyes want shoot you. And you can use the hookshot, because they can't do any damage on you then. Impa's Ways: A real pain... You can either try all the ways, make your own map of it, check a map that already excists or watch my WIP=P.

Posted: 1/28/2007 8:21 PM

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Hmm.. Gotta try that tactic in Darunia's Dungeon. Thanks! I better watch your WIP as Impa's Way is way too confusing for me right now. :P

Posted: 1/29/2007 6:29 AM

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I'm not sure if I'll be able to beat Shiek's Hideout... I can't come up with a way to get through the stupid eyes... I've got one idea: To be damaged by bombs so you can sneak by the lasers. Or else, I need to go somewhere to fill up my bottle, make a new route totally. For example, I should have gone to the forest in the light world first to get the Cane of Brynja... That was quite stupid of me tbh, oh well.

Posted: 1/29/2007 8:26 AM

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That reminds me, I never got Cane of Byrna from light world. Didn't excatly know where to get it :P Oh well, I'm in Rauru's Ruins right now (other dungeons still unfinished by the way). I have gotten a big chest key but cannot find a big door key (there are tons of big doors nearby). Tablet I've gotten already. I really do suck at exploring. I decided to go through this one because I got fed up with armos knights + spikes around the room + fireball statues -room. :> One armos knights-fight was more than enough.

Posted: 1/29/2007 11:03 AM

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Hurray hurray! I was able to pass the eyes with only 7 hearts :D. Damage boosting FTW, hookshot FTW! EDIT: Shiek's Hideout done http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3625/Parallel%20Worlds.smv And here's the latest glitch... http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3618/WTF.smv I've no idea what can have caused that :O. Has it happened in A link to the Past as well? EDIT3: First Parallel Tower is now beaten: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3625/Parallel%20Worlds.smv I could have taken the blue way at once... But I don't remember if you could kill Ganon without the Silver Arrows, and if you could: How many do I have to use...? Anyway... I did like this, so I'll have to play the stupid dungeon once more. Time to collect some keys! EDIT4: So... I'm up at the Parallel Tower again... http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3625/Parallel%20Worlds.smv That will be enough for now. I will finish it later today I guess.

Posted: 1/30/2007 9:31 PM

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Finally made it to Ganon... Which I can't be arsed to finish at the moment. I know realize that the bottle was quite useless =P. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3628/Parallel%20Worlds.smv EDIT: I have now shown what you can do with this game. The hack itself is good, even if it can be better. But I still think that this could be a very entertaining TAS. Shall it be permitted or not...?