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Posted: 1/30/2007 10:36 PM
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Kyrsimys
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Hmm that's a tough one. It is clear that the hack should definitely not be accepted for a good while now since there is a new version coming and who knows how many after that. Ignoring that, one could argue that it should NOT be accepted because
    1) you have to really know the game (which not very many people will) to be able to enjoy the run properly (i.e. the action scenes are pretty slow-paced and the run doesn't offer much in that perspective, it's mostly about figuring out routes) 2) there is very much repetition, especially in the boss department 3) it's quite long (relates to #1 as well)
Generally speaking what people probably like the most about this game is that there is so much new stuff to explore and figure out. It really isn't at its best as a TAS. Then again, it IS a wonderful game and I would certainly watch a full optimized TAS...
Posted: 1/30/2007 11:30 PM
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I have now tried the game for a couple of hours. Exploring around and stuff like that. I'm really glad to see this hack. I will try to finish it when I get more time. And I really hope to see a TAS of it.
Posted: 1/31/2007 3:42 AM
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A TAS should wait at least for the next version. The author promised dungeon layout revisions to eliminate annoying backtracking. It would be nice to know the passive effects bombos ether and quake are supposed to have. Tompa, why did you skip the last medallion and the master sword? Level 3 sword won't hurt him.
Posted: 1/31/2007 9:44 AM
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Kaz: I didn't feel for going up the tower once more, because that'll take so much time. And yes, the lvl 3 sword can hurt him, but I have to use spin attacks only... If Ganon hit me once, I'm dead, the fire can hit me twice though... And what annoys me even more: If I'm using the cape my magic will go "bye bye" very quickly. And if I use the cane, I can't do spin attacks... So I'm thinking of manipulate some money so I can buy a green potion. Or else remake the tower and get the master sword (Which I really can't be arsed to do ;D.)
Posted: 1/31/2007 12:34 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/tsevani/parallelworlds01.PNG A screenie from Rauru's Ruins.. Umm.. were you supposed to push that block (the skull pot left from Link originally had a small key) right so you can grab the small key without using the big door key? Or was it planned that way? At least I got it that way, though I had to fight those annoying lanmolas. EDIT: Grr at BBCode.
Posted: 1/31/2007 1:39 PM
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Tompa
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Yes, you can push that block from the side. It isn't meant to be like it, but it's much faster:).
Posted: 1/31/2007 2:20 PM
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chewan
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Umm, is it just me or does Rauru's Ruins have one small key too much? I just grabbed the crystal and I had one key left.
Posted: 1/31/2007 2:28 PM
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I think it even has two keys too much=).
Posted: 1/31/2007 3:45 PM
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chewan
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Heh, I haven't found the other one yet :p Then again I don't want to fight those minibosses again. But.. I'm little confused with Lost Woods directions. I've tried every single combination but doesn't work :/ EDIT: Since I'm too lazy to make a new post, I'll just edit this one. Anyway, I've beaten Rauru's Ruins, Darunia's Dungeon, Ruto's Fortress and Saria's Gardens. I am travelling now inside the actual dungeon of Impa's Ways but the teleporters are bringing me nowhere new place. Or am I supposed to fall down in somewhere to proceed?
Posted: 2/2/2007 2:20 PM
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Tompa
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Those teleports can be very annoying. You do come to different places. It's quite hard to see though... You shall either make your own map and write down where you'll come if you take the teleport, or else you can check a map that already excists for it. But no, you shall never drop down a hole. Just keep trying:).
Posted: 2/2/2007 2:33 PM
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chewan
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Whaat.. where can I find such a map :o Acmlm forums?
Posted: 2/2/2007 2:37 PM
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Tompa
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Yeah, it was somewhere in the forums. Here it is: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/Tomtelala/ImpasWaysWalkthrough.png I have Darunia's Cavern and Nabooru's Hole as well. And I have started some kind of walkthrough project with this game. I'm going to make maps of all the houses, dungeons, caves etc. And position of all the items and such =) PAIN. EDIT: The small brown square is a chest. The one in the upperleft corner is the Big Key. And the other is the Big Chest Key. The big brown square is the Big Chest.
Posted: 2/2/2007 4:50 PM
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chewan
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Yarr, finished it. I remembered to wait until floor tiles stopped flying... With those fireball statues, disappearing floor and few useless spikes.. fun fun fun. Luckily Moldorm got trapped to left wall :) Now I'm happily wandering around Nabooru's Hole. This one is fun. Lucky there's a Book of Mudora and I've memorized which holes I have already visited at. Anyway, what exactly triggers Super Bomb being available? Beating Ruto's Fortress?
Posted: 2/2/2007 4:54 PM
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Tompa
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No idea... I could buy it after I finished Impa's Ways and Darunia's Cavern, those were the only dungeons I need to beat. You maybe only need to beat one of them, or do something else... Not sure=).
Posted: 2/3/2007 2:18 AM
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Will you actually post the final boss battle? Wait, I'll answer that for you "Yes I will."
Posted: 2/3/2007 7:45 AM
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Tompa
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I guess I can try... But it will very very hard=P. I'm doing a different project for the game now, so I haven't time to finish it. But be free to take the challenge, anyone^^.
Posted: 2/3/2007 12:36 PM
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chewan
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Dunno if this was supposed to be happen; I couldn't proceed at least so I had to load a save state. No big door key or anything used: This would have been triple post if I wouldn't be so lazy to make new one every time >_>. Anyway, both treasures gotten, both big keys and one extra small key (other one used for rupee room). Any help to find the boss?
Posted: 2/4/2007 12:51 PM
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Tompa
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I couldn't be arsed to explain. So here's a video: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3734/Boss%20room.smv That shall help:).
Posted: 2/4/2007 12:58 PM
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chewan
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What thee... I was in that room and tried to bomb from exactly same location. It never worked.. I guess I try again.. Thanks :D EDIT: Whee, wandering around in Parallel Tower.. found something useless but little fun :P http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3738/paralleltowerfun.smv
Posted: 2/4/2007 4:51 PM
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Tompa
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Yeah, hehe, I know about that. There's at least one more spot you can do that at:). It's fun when you press Start, because then you will here the "bounce into a wall" sound again and again... =) I'm soon done with a map of the guardhouse. Think I have to use a better method than screenshots + paint.
Posted: 2/5/2007 12:48 PM
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chewan wrote:
Anyway, what exactly triggers Super Bomb being available? Beating Ruto's Fortress?
I think you need to beat Impa's Way. After the boss battle, the girl that appears in the crystal is Zelda. If I remember correctly, it is also Zelda that appears in A Link to the Past when you defeat Trinexx, and after this event the Super Bomb is triggered. The conceptors of the hack must not have bothered themselves to change this thing...
Posted: 2/5/2007 1:09 PM
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Tompa
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In A Link to the Past, the Super Bomb will be triggered after dungeon 5 and 6. Has nothing to do with Zelda.
Posted: 2/5/2007 4:28 PM
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chewan
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As much fun as Parallel Tower in snow world offered, I don't want to climb it up again >_> Oh well, got the mirror though. I got two keys inside tower, is the remaining key in the light world's tower? Now I need to collect some keys again.. one from snow world and three from light world. EDIT: Where am I supposed to find 3rd dungeon (or jewel, doesn't really matter to me :P) in 2nd quest? Gotten both rods so far and some other fun stuff as one of first world keys and 1/2 magic.
Posted: 2/6/2007 8:49 PM
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Yes, there are three keys in the Parallel Tower, so if you only got two, there's one more to be found ;). 2 are hidden in pots and one is lying on the ground. They can be obtained in both the Icy and the Light world. But I presume you already have passed that part, lol =P. Haven't played the second quest yet. I'm busy making Piece of Heart location FAQ and Boss FAQ for the first quest:).
Posted: 2/6/2007 10:08 PM
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chewan
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Yeah, well.. 3 times climbing the tower was more than enough :P I was lazy enough to not do the puzzle tho.
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