Here's the idea: Start a season immediately, and do a simulation mode to run through every game. Luck-manipulate between games to win all 162, then right as the playoffs start do a burst of manipulation and end the movie, then go on to win the world series. If I can get Mupen to work on my crappy computer, I might work on this sometime, but if anyone else wants to practice luck-manipulation they can go for it.
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Well, the last part sounds interesting, but wouldn't 162 games be really boring? Isn't there a baseball game that has less games to play before the playoffs?
Otherwise, I think the concept would look really good if done correctly, but manipulating several games without any controller input seems almost impossible... FractalFusion "only" manipulated eight rolls in his Monopoly movie, and he had a program to help find that manipulation. It might be possible, but the chances of any TASer finding the correct input before going crazy seem pretty slim.
Maybe this could help your luck manipulation...
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On Topic: Yes, a run like this would be quite interesting to watch. Tell you what, I'll chip in 5 dollars. Seriously though, even with that computers power, it'll still quite a while to make the run.
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Perhaps you don't understand the concept. All baseball games have a "season" mode. Pick this game, and there's a screen with all 162 games your team will play. Most games have a "simulation" mode. When you pick this mode, it plays a game in 1 second, and you stay on the season screen. It would take 3 minutes, and you would enjoy watching more and more improbable wins. At the end of the season, you would look at the awards that had been won, then enter the playoffs. You would do a burst of manipulating, then simulate the playoffs and end the movie.
Well basically all it would be is manipulating the menus until the season is over...
I mean it would be a short movie so it's not so bad, but the entertainment value of watching someone waiting a particular frame or moving the cursor around the menu to manipulate the outcome of a simulated game and then look at a Scoresheet and repeat the process 162 times (+playoffs) seems a little tedious.
It would show a perfect & fastest way to get through a baseball game, but it wouldn't entertain much.
My 2 cents.
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You don't enter the game. You don't see after game stats. You see a list of 162 games and you see 1 game on the list at a time go from not played to played. You press the button once and play the whole season. Then it says "Congratulations on getting to the playoffs". You press "clear" for this and then do "simulate all" for the playoffs. Then you do "movie end", and you win 11 straight. The 11 straight is the hard part, assuming a 50% chance of winning the odds are 2048 to 1 against. Tricky to manipulate, but you'll get there.
On the baseball note, who made this movie? The precision is such that it must be TAS, or a well-faked clip.
Chamale....I'm sorry but I can tell you right now this will most likely be rejected because of a SERIOUS lack of entertainment and skill. Sure, the luck manipulation might take you some time but IMO sitting there and watching nothing but scores being generated one after another just doesn't cut the mustard. While it may seem funny to you, I don't think people will take the run seriously. Again this is just my opinion...
I do like the idea of reenacting a classic baseball game. And that video you linked to WAS done through luck manipulation and also taking advantage of the stillness between at-bats to line everything up ;)
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It would be cool to create classic re-enactments in a game like this, then in the encoded video file, put in original commentary. That would be fun to watch.
Another option is to find a list of the 50 best defensive plays ever and do a game with all 50, plus a strikeout. Then end it with a homerun.
EDIT: No, wait. It would be faster to have the strikeout at the end, and manipulate, then end the movie at the last pitch. Then have 4 walks in the next inning.
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Chamale wrote:
Another option is to find a list of the 50 best defensive plays ever and do a game with all 50, plus a strikeout. Then end it with a homerun.
EDIT: No, wait. It would be faster to have the strikeout at the end, and manipulate, then end the movie at the last pitch. Then have 4 walks in the next inning.
You say this like its currently possible to manipulate an existing game and that you're already trying it. I think its safe to say that what you seek will stay impossible for at least a few years.
Unless you come up with a fantastic idea in which to do so, in which case I would recommend you find something to occupy your vast thinking time.
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I had a little spare time and thought of a skillful idea for Chamale. You could try getting a Quadruple play (A theoretical baseball play in which 4 players get out in one play) on this game. Now that would take at least some skill to pull off.
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I had a little spare time and thought of a skillful idea for Chamale. You could try getting a Quadruple play on this game. Now that would take at least some skill to pull off.
jesus christ kid, do us all a favor and just drop the whole quadruple run stuff. aside from the fact that 1/2 of the things you talk about relate to quadruple runs, doing a quad run on a baseball game would be pointless... 4x menus = 4x boring!
on topic: i dont think a sports game, regardless of how it is played, would be very entertaining... granted i dont find entertainment in sports games played in real time by yours truly. i would get really bored watching the player get 20 home runs, eventually strike out (to continue the game, that is), immediately strike out the other team, rinse, wash, repeat. i also would not enjoy watching a menu that says "simulating" for 3 seconds, the cursor moves to the next game, and then simulating pops up again, rinse, wash, repeat (x2).
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I very much agree with this post.
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By quadruple play, he meant the play in baseball where 4 players are out in one play. This is normally not possible, because only 3 outs can be made in an inning. It is, however, theoretically possible, and might be amusing.
By quadruple play, he meant the play in baseball where 4 players are out in one play. This is normally not possible, because only 3 outs can be made in an inning. It is, however, theoretically possible, and might be amusing.
so you would have to pitch at least 3 balls for the computer to hit, thus wasting time and prolonging frame count (unless your movie is entertainment only)... as well as, IMHO, looking bad when the computer actually hits the ball (because i think a tas of a baseball game should be a no hitter, personal opinion of course)
I think i am just going to leave it at that, i dont feel like being the start/cause of any flame wars...
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EDIT: While I am thinking about it, i figure i owe an apology to Rridgway for my miscommunication woes. So, my apologies.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
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Would be a cool run though...!
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