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Posted: 12/22/2007 12:17 AM
Post subject: Re: Discussion about 2007 nominees for various TAS categories
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Posted: 12/22/2007 4:15 PM
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Perhaps best boss-fighting? I'm not proposing anything yet, but I think it's a good category. Oh, BTW, I nominate the Pokémon Blue 1:18 run for luck-manipulation award.
Posted: 12/22/2007 5:19 PM
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Chamale wrote:
Perhaps best boss-fighting? I'm not proposing anything yet, but I think it's a good category.
In my opinion, this applies to your question:
JXQ wrote:
One thing I want to avoid is having so many categories that people get sick of casting votes.
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Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 12/22/2007 10:43 PM
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Does "Best glitch" mean the coolest looking glitch, or the coolest concept?
I would say that "best glitch" is the one which had the greatest impact and caused most positive feedback in the TASing community.
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I think getting past the 30 star door in SM64 would strongly rival your claim.
True. I forgot about that one. Probably caused even a more drastic impact in the community.
Posted: 12/22/2007 11:01 PM
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Posted: 12/31/2007 12:02 PM
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Now that the 100 CD run was published before 2008, it could be nominated for the glitchy TAS category, or the SNES TAS category.
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Posted: 1/1/2008 5:52 PM
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Now that 2008 is here, we should start creating new threads with polls.
Posted: 1/1/2008 7:06 PM
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I would like to take this opportunity and thank JXQ for going through the huge trouble and providing me with hundreds of links and for taking initiative. Thank you! Also, if you (JXQ) or someone else notice anything wrong with the polls, please let me know a.s.a.p.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 1/10/2008 3:10 PM
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The voting for TAS awards of 2007 went very smoothly. Thanks to everyone who participated, and congratulations to the nominees and winners! Here are the results: (hopefully the formatting is not too confusing) Speedy TAS of 2007 19 votes - [802] SNES Biker Mice From Mars (USA) by Baxter in 05:12.62 12 votes - [919] GBA "Maxim Version" Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance (USA) by Comicalflop in 00:24.3 8 votes - [886] N64 Wetrix 64 (USA) by Deign in 00:49.72 6 votes - [969] NES Legacy of the Wizard (USA) by Lord Tom in 13:44.23 6 votes - [972] SNES Mask, The (USA) by Randil in 06:39.8 Glitchy TAS of 2007 27 votes - [826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02 9 votes - [941] SGB Pokémon Green (JPN v1.0) by Primorial#soup in 04:24.53 8 votes - [1036] SNES "100 CDs" Rockman & Forte (JPN) by parrot14green in 42:19.82 7 votes - [822] GB "warp glitch" Zelda: Link's Awakening (USA/Europe v1.0) by Soulrivers in 04:00.5 6 votes - [824] NES "glitched" Legend of Zelda 2 (USA) by Inzult in 06:13.08 5 votes - [934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68 2 votes - [813] NES Widget (USA) by CtrlAltDestroy in 05:48.83 2 votes - [883] NES A Boy and His Blob (USA) by Aqfaq in 01:57.95 1 vote - [955] NES "item glitch" Dragon Warrior 3 (USA) by dave_dfwm in 57:28.27 Innovative TAS of 2007 20 votes - [871] NES Mega Man 3, 4, 5 & 6 (USA) by Baxter & AngerFist in 39:06.92 16 votes - [892] SNES "small only" Super Mario World (USA) by thegreginator & skamastaG in 1:19:55.65 12 votes - [817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02 7 votes - [784] NES "4 Player" Nightmare On Elm Street (USA) by chupapi in 16:15.75 7 votes - [1013] NES River City Ransom (USA) by adelikat & JXQ in 12:55.38 3 votes - [848] SNES Super Mario Kart (USA) by Huffers in 23:10.88 1 vote - [799] GBA Silent Scope (USA) by mmbossman in 05:29.28 Lucky TAS of 2007 14 votes - [1004] Genesis Shining Force (USA) by DarkKobold in 2:08:40.07 10 votes - [868] NES Legend of Zelda, The (USA PRG0) by Phil & Baxter in 24:04.05 9 votes - [950] SGB Pokémon Blue (USA/Europe) by Primorial#soup in 1:18:58.78 6 votes - [1024] GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (USA) by zggzdydp in 12:06.73 3 votes - [766] NES Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! (USA PRG1) by adelikat in 17:50.0 3 votes - [834] SNES Vegas Stakes (USA) by hero of the day in 03:30.93 2 votes - [931] NES Dragon Warrior 3 (USA) by dave_dfwm in 1:50:36.18 1 votes - [901] NES Castlevania (USA PRG1) by Phil. Côté & Morrison in 11:20.5 Funny TAS of 2007 20 votes - [1013] NES River City Ransom (USA) by adelikat & JXQ in 12:55.38 13 votes - [897] Genesis Altered Beast (Japan/USA,r2) by foda in 05:53.3 6 votes - [934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68 6 votes - [1014] NES Journey to Silius (USA) by klmz in 09:32.03 4 votes - [1026] NES "2-player" Chip 'n Dale - Rescue Rangers (USA) by dragonxyk in 09:29.22 2 votes - [876] Genesis Splatterhouse 2 (USA) by Aqfaq in 14:15.5 GBx TAS of 2007 11 votes - [981] GBA "100%" Metroid Zero Mission (USA) by Dragonfangs in 1:01:43.7 9 votes - [863] GBC Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (USA) by Chef Stef in 1:09:49.93 7 votes - [995] GBA Castlevania - Harmony of Dissonance (USA) by zggzdydp in 14:04.85 6 votes - [950] SGB Pokémon Blue (USA/Europe) by Primorial#soup in 1:18:58.78 5 votes - [1024] GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (USA) by zggzdydp in 12:06.73 4 votes - [821] GBA Castlevania: Circle Of The Moon (USA) by Cardboard in 21:51.08 3 votes - [949] GB "any%" Metroid II - Return Of Samus (USA) by Cardboard in 45:08.42 2 votes - [947] GBA Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (JPN) by mugg in 26:11.52 Genesis TAS of 2007 20 votes - [826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02 11 votes - [945] Genesis Gunstar Heroes (USA) by arkiandruski in 35:28.92 3 votes - [958] Genesis Rocket Knight Adventures (USA) by Upthorn in 27:18.13 2 votes - [845] Genesis Vectorman (USA) by mmbossman in 11:41.75 2 votes - [880] Genesis Dynamite Headdy (USA) by emu in 33:22.82 2 votes - [954] Genesis Comix Zone (USA) by xoinx & XYZ in 09:34.88 N64 TAS of 2007 37 votes - [1017] N64 "0 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Swordless Link & AKA in 05:47.37 19 votes - [963] N64 Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (USA) by Mukki in 2:14:03.08 15 votes - [850] N64 "120 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Rikku in 1:39:02.13 6 votes - [1007] N64 Goldeneye 007 (USA) by Rising Tempest in 29:58.27 1 vote - [975] N64 007 ? The World is Not Enough (USA) by Wyster in 31:29.53 NES TAS of 2007 17 votes - [1022] NES Super Mario Bros (Japan/USA PRG0) by klmz in 04:58.53 9 votes - [1001] NES "warpless" Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA PRG0) by adelikat & Cardboard in 19:39.93 8 votes - [901] NES Castlevania (USA PRG1) by Phil. Côté & Morrison in 11:20.5 5 votes - [1014] NES Journey to Silius (USA) by klmz in 09:32.03 4 votes - [828] NES Ninja Gaiden 2 (USA) by Scumtron in 09:14.32 3 votes - [762] NES "Grant path" Castlevania 3 – Dracula's Curse (JPN) by Samhain-Grim in 28:57.55 3 votes - [830] NES Super C (USA) by Baxter & Adelikat in 12:20.02 3 votes - [951] NES Darkwing Duck (USA) by AnS & Randil in 10:59.5 1 votes - [991] NES Bucky O'Hare (USA) by AnS in 22:13.6 SNES TAS of 2007 26 votes - [817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02 17 votes - [892] SNES "small only" Super Mario World (USA) by thegreginator & skamastaG in 1:19:55.65 10 votes - [848] SNES Super Mario Kart (USA) by Huffers in 23:10.88 5 votes - [1036] SNES "100 CDs" Rockman & Forte (JPN) by parrot14green in 42:19.82 4 votes - [898] SNES "any%" Donkey Kong Country 2 (USA v1.0) by Arnethegreat in 41:49.02 3 votes - [793] SNES "any%" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by hero of the day in 40:57.85 1 vote - [809] SNES Mega Man X2 (USA) by FractalFusion & Graveworm in 31:42.45 1 votes - [934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68 GBx TASer of 2007 14 votes - Cardboard 12 votes - zggzdydp 4 votes - Soulrivers 3 votes - Dragonfangs 0 votes - MUGG Genesis TASer of 2007 25 votes - Upthorn 7 votes - Aqfaq 5 votes - nitsuja 3 votes - JXQ 3 votes - mmbossman 2 votes - emu 1 vote - adelikat N64 TASer of 2007 34 votes - Mukki 10 votes - Swordless Link 7 votes - Rikku 6 votes - AKA NES TASer of 2007 23 votes - adelikat 15 votes - Randil 11 votes - Baxter 6 votes - xipo 1 vote - Phil SNES TASer of 2007 34 votes - JXQ 15 votes - hero of the day 4 votes - Parrot14green 2 votes - arne_the_great 2 votes - Samhain-Grim 1 vote - Fractalfusion Rookie TASer of 2007 33 votes - Cardboard 12 votes - xipo 5 votes - klmz 5 votes - zggzdydp 3 votes - Deign 3 votes - Soulrivers --- TAS of 2007 31 votes - [817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02 31 votes - [1017] N64 "0 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Swordless Link & AKA in 05:47.37 13 votes - [826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02 4 votes - [981] GBA "100%" Metroid Zero Mission (USA) by Dragonfangs in 1:01:43.7 4 votes - [1022] NES Super Mario Bros (Japan/USA PRG0) by klmz in 04:58.53 TASer of 2007 31 votes - adelikat 11 votes - JXQ 5 votes - Baxter 5 votes - Randil 4 votes - Cardboard
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:02 PM
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I am slightly confused about the "TAS" of 2007 and "TASer" of 2007 categories. About TAS of 2007: Why aren't the winners of the "lucky tas", "glitchy tas", "funny tas", and "innovative tas" included as nominees. About TASer of 2007: Shouldn't the nominees to this category have been determined based on the winners of the other categories, as with the overall "TAS of 2007" category?
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:43 PM
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upthorn wrote:
About TAS of 2007: Why aren't the winners of the "lucky tas", "glitchy tas", "funny tas", and "innovative tas" included as nominees.
My judgment call on this was that the non-system ones were somewhat "niche" qualities of a nice TAS. Some runs had a standout performances in one of those categories, and recognizing them was my intention with those categories. Ideally, I think the best TASes strive to be all of these together as much as possible, for maximum entertainment throughout. And with the individual system voting, there was no restriction on which "type" of entertainment to go for when nominees were chosen. It was simply asking everyone to "vote for the (system) TAS of 2007," whatever that meant to the individual.
About TASer of 2007: Shouldn't the nominees to this category have been determined based on the winners of the other categories, as with the overall "TAS of 2007" category?
I justified that decision with the point that arkiandruski brought up earlier in this thread: For overall TASes, I think the winner from each catergory could be nominated. Overall TASers should be nominated separately because there are some big ones who don't necessarily shine on a single system. Good points to bring up though. If my ideas don't reflect the community as a whole, they can always be adjusted for future votes.
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Posted: 1/11/2008 5:41 AM
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Makes sense, but in the future it might be worth additionally nominating the winners of each console category, for the award of TASer of the Year.
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Posted: 1/12/2008 12:40 AM
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Upthorn wrote:
Makes sense, but in the future it might be worth additionally nominating the winners of each console category, for the award of TASer of the Year.
I disagree with this, for the reason why this was not done. I think it shows it is a bad idea in the current "TAS of 2007" poll... I don't think the list that was formed that way was the best possible list.
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Posted: 1/20/2008 9:50 PM
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Well the "TAS of 2007" voting has ended. Here are the results: (They're also put into above post) TAS of 2007 31 votes - [817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02 31 votes - [1017] N64 "0 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Swordless Link & AKA in 05:47.37 13 votes - [826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02 4 votes - [981] GBA "100%" Metroid Zero Mission (USA) by Dragonfangs in 1:01:43.7 4 votes - [1022] NES Super Mario Bros (Japan/USA PRG0) by klmz in 04:58.53 All the voting had a really great turnout, and it went much better than I thought it would. Thanks, everyone! How about next year? :)
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:49 PM
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How about next year? :)
It would be foolish not to. ;)
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:13 PM
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In all honesty I knew the 5 in that list would be likely to be in the final nomination thread, but I could never work out with all my pre-number crunching (and guess work) if SM64 or Super Metroid would come top, personally I thought Super Metroid was going to win, but I guess I could settle fairly for a tie. We can only debate what will be the likely contenders next year. We could probally make some refinements for next year, but I expect another N64 and possibly SNES submission to compete strongly head to head next year.
Posted: 1/20/2008 11:15 PM
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personally I thought Super Metroid was going to win, but I guess I could settle fairly for a tie. We can only debate what will be the likely contenders next year.
Well, in all honesty, it would have won if the authors were prohibited from voting on their own runs. :P
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:19 PM
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N64 runs I anticipate in 2008 that will be nominated are: Banjo Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Majora's Mask V2, and OOT V3 (V2 was rejected) SNES runs I anticipate in 2008 that will be nominated are: Super Mario World 96 exits V3, some Super Metriod run, perhaps a DKC run I hope 2008 will be filled with as many surprises as 2007 did.
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:20 PM
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I would personally like to thank everyone who voted. What I especially liked about this first "official" TAS awards is that it went pretty smooth. Sure, it wasnt 100% perfect as a few wanted to see other nominees for certain categories but all in all, I thought it went very well.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 1/20/2008 11:25 PM
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I call for a tiebreaker, wherein everyone who voted for MZM, S3K, or SMB1 gets to reassign their vote to either SM 100 or SM64 0.
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:27 PM
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Or just a new poll with 2 options.
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:41 PM
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moozooh wrote:
Well, in all honesty, it would have won if the authors were prohibited from voting on their own runs. :P
You do realise thats kind of like saying it would have won if people who were closely affiliated with the project were prevented from voting on the run(s). Thats why its important to have a large number of people voting. EDIT: Also its good when voting is this close because everyone knows there vote counts.
Posted: 1/20/2008 11:47 PM
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No, what I'm saying is, the author will always want to vote for their own run, due to the obvious bias involved. Which is why it's strictly prohibited in every possible voting system where the result is important for whatever reason. Not to say that it's just classless.
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:57 PM
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I don't see what the problem would be with just splitting the award between both TASes. They're both TAS of the year in their own way P:
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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:36 AM
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Uh, for all this arguing, what do they win? More props?
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