Topic by Shinryuu

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:00 PM

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Shinryuu

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hanzou or someone.. if you can use cheats to get more stuff on the screen i think there is possiblity to do shuttertech. ? http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6250/39qy.png

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:02 PM

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Bisqwit

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Shinryuu wrote:

if you can use cheats to get more stuff on the screen i think there is possiblity to do scroll-right trick? http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6250/39qy.png

On that screen? To the right, likely yes. But what's it worth?

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:05 PM

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Shinryuu

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i was just wondering what happens if the shuttertech works and i want to know where it leads :3

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:06 PM

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Bisqwit

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Shinryuu wrote:

i was just wondering what happens if the scroll-right trick works and i want to know where it leads :3

The next room, of course.

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:06 PM

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Shinryuu

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oh.. heh.. :) but thanks

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:07 PM

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Brushy

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Bisqwit wrote:

Shinryuu wrote:
i was just wondering what happens if the scroll-right trick works and i want to know where it leads :3
The next room, of course.

But what spot in there? It may be useful if it can be done fast.

Posted: 1/19/2006 8:08 PM

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Guybrush wrote:

But what spot in there? It may be useful if it can be done fast.

Left edge, same height. It can't be done fast when it can't be done at all without cheats.

Posted: 1/21/2006 7:49 PM

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Shinryuu

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new WIP http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/727/

Posted: 1/22/2006 10:27 AM

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CoolBumpty

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That's pretty nice. I like the Heatman glitch part. =)

Posted: 1/22/2006 11:35 AM

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Highness

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Awesome work Shinryuu! I also loved the heatman thingie! =)

Posted: 1/22/2006 11:39 AM

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Brushy

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Great work Shin! Glad you finally finished the Heatman. Looking forward to this ;)

Posted: 1/22/2006 12:03 PM

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Bisqwit

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Shinryuu wrote:

new WIP http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/727/

Nice timing of switching back to P.

Posted: 1/22/2006 12:21 PM

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Shinryuu

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Thanks guys.. :) im halfway of cloud area now.. only thing what i hate the most is lag.. becouse lag can make game to restart if im almost so high as possbile on the screen.. (hehe same thing happens with shuttertechs sometimes)

Posted: 1/22/2006 1:14 PM

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Shinryuu

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there is my new WIP (Cloudy area finished) i just realized i don't have any item1 after shutter.. :o http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/730/

Posted: 1/22/2006 1:17 PM

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Shinryuu wrote:

im halfway of cloud area now.. only thing what i hate the most is lag.. becouse lag can make game to restart if im almost so high as possbile on the screen..

That's strange. Lag makes the game restart if you're too high up? Does that have any other side-effects?

Posted: 1/22/2006 4:18 PM

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Highness

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Looking good Shinryuu. Very fast it looks!

Posted: 1/22/2006 5:29 PM

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JXQ

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Yay! Someone finally made the birds appear on the robot introduction screen :)

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Posted: 1/22/2006 9:38 PM

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Highness

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Oh! I forgot to comment about that part. I actually smiled when I saw that! :D Good one Shinryuu.

Posted: 1/24/2006 3:37 PM

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kolechovski

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Hey, I'm back after missing Friday...although it's of no use in a time attack, I still noticed that nobody saw how to beat Bubble Man after the shutter tech. When he falls off the screen, aim down, not up. Also, I was wondering if anybody found a way yet to keep invincibility after teleporting out of a stage. I can't seem to find a way to do it without having to blow all lives and restart a new stage, and that's such a waste anyways. edit-hey, I am able to watch the fce movies on these comps...I've got a lot of catching up to do. I just watched a portion of one of the videos and have to ask if using the pause trick to stop recoil will save a few frames rather than just getting hit and running through? I don't recall seeing any comparisons on it. Also, about Morimoto's old video, he ran under the giant machines Hammer Joe rides. Could you luck-manipulate them into jumping when it's convenient so you don't get hit at all? edit-Another thing...in Heat Man's stage, if you can find a way into the lava that flows underground, you can do a good bit of zipping in the first segment without getting killed. This seems to be the only area that it would be helpful to do so, and I'm not sure if there is any way into the ground that early on. If you can work a ladder wrap during the final couple rooms to get into the floor where the giant machine is, it could save a couple frames, but trying it from that room up doesn't work the way I want it to.

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Posted: 1/24/2006 9:45 PM

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Spider-Waffle

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Can you zip on the 1 block thick wall on flashman's stag? I think no but I can't remember. I don't supose doing heat air flash would help much for flash? Also, did you try doing the new little item3 trick on heatman my way? You jump across to the ground then turn around jump back and toss the item3 and land on it where it's sticking out of the little block in the air.

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Posted: 1/24/2006 10:01 PM

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Shinryuu

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You should watch my WIP.. i used item3 for "huge shortcut" in heatmanstage :) erm.. i played flashmanstage as a first stage.. there is no possibility to zip anywhere.. if i am 100% sure

Posted: 1/24/2006 11:04 PM

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kolechovski

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Well, not as a first stage. If you had item 1, you could go through the ceiling at the battle start and land near Flash Man, but that wouldn't save much time, so just keep his stage first. To the guy who patched Item 1 during the Level 1 part of Heat Man's stage, how do you do that? I found out why the Item 3 drop occurs and realize that I can't reproduce it in open air, so only using item 1 will work there.

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Posted: 1/25/2006 4:04 AM

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hanzou

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If you can access a unix shell, there's a cheat generator script for FCEU at the bottom of the Rockman Tricks page. edit: Come to think of it, I could be more courteous if I answered the question simply rather than hinting at a roundabout search =P. The cheat code to enable item1+2+3 is 009b:7

Posted: 1/26/2006 6:15 PM

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kolechovski

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Hey, thanks for that detail...I'll get into that as soon as I have the time. I have finished watching all the fce videos posted to this site (at least from the links that still work), so now I know all that has been accomplished. There's not really much of anything left to say, except back to the bug in Level 4 where finalfighter made the screen scroll to the right. IIRC, one person's theorey was that it kept resetting, because it tried to load the next room, and there was nothing there. I will disagree with this, because after looking at it slowly, it does successfully load the first 2 blocks of glitch room number 1 before it resets. Also, this differs from the resets I experience since I suffered those with the trick that loads the previous room. So, if you're going to try to find a way around that reset, there's something different causing that problem. A question for finalfighter-have ANY attempts worked without that reset?

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Posted: 1/27/2006 6:26 AM

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hanzou

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Thanks for taking the time to watch all those vids. I know this thread is very long and it's not an easy task for anybody to keep track of all the ideas and techniques that have been tested or demonstrated. As for getting beyond the last room of wily4, I wouldn't be surprised if there turns out to be a way to visibly scroll right without crashing the game, but what's the point? If you want to scroll then jump around while fighting a boss in a room of game data void, you can already use Crashman, the mechadragon, or the wily6 alien.