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Tub
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Thanks for the explanation. The version without pauses looks a lot more understandable. Could the menu times be reduced by creating an sram file that contains only the required souls and items, and nothing else?
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Tub wrote:
Could the menu times be reduced by creating an sram file that contains only the required souls and items, and nothing else?
Only a little. Most of the time is wasted on the menu's fading in and out animation and switching equip via doppelganger. The time it costs to scroll down to bomber armor, flame demon, abbadon, etc. is basically negligible.
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The Boss Rush was really interesting and very entertaining with the pauses taken out!!! Is anybody planning to do a 100% Souls Run? The Aria of Sorrow all souls TAS was one of my favorites of all time!!! Hopefully someone decides to do it for this game because this is by far my favorite Castlevania game of all time!!!
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The 100% run would probably just involve a lot of suspend glitching as you randomly get souls added while you're out of bounds.
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What about a glitchless run? A glitched out of bounds run would be pretty boring honestly. I'm sure a glitchless run will take a lot of time, but the end result would be amazing to watch!!!
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Glitched boss rush Not very impressive, but I felt like it had to be done :o Still not sure if flying armor should actually be killed... might test it sometime.
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Yeah, that is definitely the case of faster != better.
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lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
What about a glitchless run? A glitched out of bounds run would be pretty boring honestly. I'm sure a glitchless run will take a lot of time, but the end result would be amazing to watch!!!
Seconding a call for a glitchless 100% run.
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Made a short test of a Julius Mode run, up to getting Yoko, which is about 2.5 seconds faster than Gocha's test run. That's mainly from better movement patterns with Julius, and hitting the boss with the whip on his first vulnerable frame each time, as well as getting an additional axe hit in. I'm going to try to do a full run unless someone else is working on it. dsm
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Note for everyone trying to play this movie, "Enable Advanced Level Bus Timing" needs to be enabled to make the run sync. Anyway, hooray, a new DoS run. I'm still hoping for a full warpless run using Soma, but I'm excited for a Julius run as well. Strange, I remember Julius could move faster, but perhaps I'm mixing things up with Aria of Sorrow here. Anyway, great work so far, please, do keep it up.
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Julius is pretty slow in DoS. The intervening year or so since AoS hit him hard, apparently.
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Man, this game is pretty annoying to TAS due to the input intense movement, but I'm making decent progress. The Ice spell turned out to be pretty neat. dsm
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What is my test run? A miserable little pile of mistakes (unplanned things). But enough talk, keep the good work, Cpadolf. If you want to commit your file to http://code.google.com/p/dawnofsorrow/ , tell me your google account id, then I will add you to the project. Also, http://code.google.com/p/gocha-tas/source/browse/trunk/Scripts/dsmplay.lua might make inputting continuous backbash a little easier.
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I never really use Google Projcets, so I don't think that's necessary. Thanks for the code though, it should definitely help at longer stretches of backdashing. EDIT: Up to Dark Chapel now. I'm thinking it'll probably be better to go down to Rahab and the bat before Dimitri and Malphas, because it should allow me to cut out one trip to a save room. dsm
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Fuck, I just realized I don't even have a verification movie for this run as I just used the save data generated fro gocha's testrun. I guess I'll play through the entire game unassisted, start a new run from that and pray to god every god that I can get it to synch.
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Why can't you use gocha's testrun as the verification movie?
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That began from SRAM too. EDIT: Sweet, finally got it to synch all the way after creating a verifier movie. Got 2 extra frames of lag at the start from the new SRAM, and for some reason one frame at the end and the beginning of the Puppet Master fight, as well as losing one frame of lag when switching to Alucard the first time. All that was fixable by just editing the input file though as it did not affect the RNG.
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I was just wondering, how your run is going?
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I've been taking a break due to school, but I'm going to try and get started again in a few weeks or so.
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I see. Good luck with your school stuffs!
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I've finally been getting back to this. I'm up to Condemned Tower at this point, ahead by about 3000 frames. dsm
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Awesome! Can't wait!
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Cpadolf wrote:
I've finally been getting back to this. I'm up to Condemned Tower at this point, ahead by about 3000 frames. dsm Link to video
Excellent. Can't wait till the submission :)
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Is going to the save room (at around 5 minutes) really faster than grabbing a boss orb to refill health? If not from Balore (since you spend some time offscreen clearing out blocks) then from the previous boss? Otherwise, looks awesome. I love how absurd the movement is in Castlevania games. It's never enough to just walk. :) Thanks for the encode, gocha!
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Thanks for the encode gocha :) Derakon: For both Balore and Puppet Master it takes a few seconds longer for the orb to appear than it takes to go to the save room.
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