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This is an improvement to NES Excitebike; faster times are obtained for all six tracks with a combined savings of 1.38s. Time is saved by taking ramps at higher speeds and by a technique discovered by XKeeper which paradoxically gains time by going slower.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: FCEUX 2.1.1
  • As fast as possible by in-game timer

The Times

TrackOld TimeNew TimeImprovement
Cumulative in-game savings: 1.38s


First, some quotes from the forums:
"Excitebike is a fun game to play, but it's quite easy to play it nearly perfectly by regular means." --Bisqwit, 2004
"Pretty bad idea doing a timettack I dont think it can be faster than someone at Twin Galaxies. Very easy game." --Phil, 2004
Well, five years and five submissions later, I think we're getting close...;)
This submission really uses just 3 new techniques to save time:

Taking ramps faster

Not much to say here. Excitebike is simple in that the only way to boost speed above 3.25px/frame is to hit the triangle ramps. Speed can then be maintained indefinitely.
A couple minor discoveries allowed me to lose less speed taking the ramps in the 1st 3 tracks. First, it's better to push up (switching lanes upward) at the last possible frame to take the shortest possible jump. Second, the game seems to detect ramp collisions only every other frame. This can lead to cases where one drops right through the ramp at a certain speed, but by dropping a frame somewhere, one can hit the ramp instead.

Avoid getting too far ahead of the screen

This trick, discovered by XKeeper, makes use of the way the game tracks the bike's advancement on the track and saves time on tracks 0, 1 and 5.
Basically, a value ($64) is tracked, from 0 to 8, indicating how many pixels the bike must advance before showing more of the track. At a speed of 1, it would take 8 frames to get from 8 down to 0; at speed 4, it would only take 2 frames. Each frame, the bike's speed is subtracted and the value is checked. If it's <0, the track advances and the value is increased by 8. If >0, the track doesn't advance, and the value is left as is.
However, when speed is greater than 8, the value can actually wrap below 0 (255, 254, etc). If speed is kept >8 long enough, the value hits <128, and several frames must elapse before advancing again.
Why does this happen? My suspicion is the game logic just checks the highest bit in determining whether to advance. For values 128-255, this bit is 1. At 127, though, the high bit is 0, so the game interprets it as the bike needing to travel 127 pixels before advancing.
One further note is that one can finish a track a handful of frames earlier if the value is 128<value<0 when crossing the finish line. So, there is no "optimal speed" per se; the best time is achieved by exceeding a speed of 8 for a brief time, then keeping speed at/near 8 so as to finish with the value < 0.
I abuse this behavior in various ways to do some fun stuff. When the value is <0, the game will advance on every frame as long as the speed is at least one. So, I actually slow down substantially at the end of tracks 1 and 4 without losing any time.

Optimizing the timer

Finally, there's a global counter which determines when, at the beginning of a track, the bike can start accelerating. However, this timing is not fixed in relation to when time starts! The optimum situation is when the bike starts 2 frames before the timer does; the worst case is the timer starting 1 frame before the bike. I drop a frame in track 2 to manipulate this effect to save a couple frames in track 3. For tracks 3 and 4, the 0.02 savings is entirely due to this behavior. Unfortunately, for track 5, dropping frames in the prior track did not alter the (worst possible) behavior, probably due to a frame rule. So track 5's lap time is 3 frames slower than in the published run due to this effect, despite having a faster overall time.

Further Improvements

I can't say this run is perfect, but I can say I have no ideas for improving it further, despite trying many, many things. Good luck to all who try!


I did the best I could with style in this game. I decided to try for a certain "theme" for each track to try to spice things up...I added subtitles to the run to make the viewer aware, but here they are:
  • Track 0: Taking big, long jumps
  • Track 1: Lots of wheelies!
  • Track 2: Make other bikes crash
  • Track 3: Minimalist (don't hit other bikes, no bounces, few turns)
  • Track 4: Wrap-around the screen whenever possible
  • Track 5: Bouncing ball!
I did other things, like intentionally overheating on track 4 to make it interesting. Not sure if I did JXQ's run justice in this respect, but I tried...enjoy!


Thanks to JXQ, Luke G, and FODA for the very enjoyable prior runs. Thanks to XKeeper for a very impressive technical discovery, and to Randil for helping me figure out the game's timer behavior.
mmbossman: Going slower to go faster, huh? Interesting. Accepting as an improvement.

Raiscan: Processing slowly to go faster.

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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #2383: Lord Tom's NES Excitebike in 05:29.44
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Well done. A full second is a pretty fair gain for a 4th(?) version. The entertainment was sufficient. Yes vote.
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Good job optimizing, yes vote.
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Great job! Entertaining to the end. I also greatly appreciate the comments you've inserted into the video.
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Great run. Liked it a lot. :) I think there is a typo in the time table. "1 37.84 38.24 0.40" I think 37.84 should swap place with 38.24, right? Thanks for this run. Enjoyed it.
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I enjoyed it. Yes vote.
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Wow, I didn't expect this game to get beaten, but then agian the frame war in SMB shoulda told me that no game can be assumed to be perfect.
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Very nice, Mr. Tom. The technical details are impressive and the stylistic choices are well thought out and executed. What will you conquer next? :D Here is an encode with subtitles:
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Thanks for the encode, Alden! Looked like a solid run. With this kind of improvement it's difficult to see the actual changes that made the run faster unless you use frame-advance and look at the inputs and memory. But hey, the small numbers are slightly smaller now, and that's good enough for me. :)
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Very nice job! I liked seeing the details in your submission comments about the new improvements. I would've never suspected that Excitebike could get this technical. Also, the style choices were clever; my favorite was probably track 5, since I would probably want to be that bouncy and carefree if I could ride with TAS power.
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Loved it. With the fact that I've speedrun this on console, it's impressive to see how much faster my best track time compares with the TAS. Track 0: Me - 43.69 TAS - 36.19 Quite ridiculous times indeed. Yes vote of course. :D
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Very exciting run indeed, and nice use of subtitles! Here's an easy yes vote.
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well done sir!
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Well done. Giving themes for each racetrack is a nice idea. I really enjoyed watching this run.
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Nice improvements, yes vote.
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Very nice improvement. Yes vote on this. Subtitles were cute, too.
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This game sure has wonky physics, particularly when the bike moves vertically off the screen. Otherwise, everything looked well optimized so I'm giving this a yes vote.
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This was cool, and it was also the first movie I've ever seen which uses subtitles. Good improvements and good style!
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impressive! sweet! yes
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [1348] NES Excitebike by Lord Tom in 05:29.44
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The .mkv encoded for the publication includes the author's subtitles from the movie file. These are likely to be enabled by default depending on your media player, but can be disabled if desired. Enjoy :)
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1 = 37.84 :) It's nice to see that this movie was finally improved. I was wondering if anybody would take what I learned and put it to use! Congratulations on discovering the other tricks, too. I probably never would have found them if I tried TASing it.