Posted: 9/25/2009 2:06 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
Hi to all I introduce myself I'm sylphine I'm French it makes long as I watch videos of tool assisted speedrun and I decided to throw myself I do not know much I speak English well I have a friend who told me I had used the frame advance but do not know much about the TAS I'm not gifted in English and in fact I'd like to know if there's someone there who speaks French and can help me on the rules tools explain many things because I intend to attack a TAS of secret of mana I try to make a small following extract http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sylphine/video/xale59_test-tas-secret-of-mana_videogames So I'd like your opinion on this demo of TAS So voila thank you in advance to all who can help me
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:27 PM
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funnyhair
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I really hate to tell you this, but secret of mana is the wrong game for beginners. Especially because you have to control three characters at one point. I would recommend a game that is easy to do, i would go to the game suggestions forum and look there.
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:38 PM
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Derakon
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Bienvenu! Votre anglais n'est pas si mauvais; il faut que vous le pratiquez un peu. :) Comme moi, mon français n'est pas si bon, mais j'espère que vous me comprendrez. Il y a un discussion pour Secret of Mana ici plein des techniques et outils, mais j'accorde avec Funnyhair -- il seriez trop difficile de faire un TAS de cet jeu pour les novices. Les jeux RPGs toujours demandent qu'on est attentif des statistiques est des équipages, et ce n'est pas rare de trouver qu'on doit relancer le plupart du TAS après qu'on l'a presque complété. Secret of Mana il-même est particulièrement difficile au cause d'on doit commander trois personnage à le même fois. And now in English: Welcome! Your English isn't so bad -- you just have to practice a bit. :) Like me, my French isn't so good, but I hope you can understand me. There's a thread on Secret of Mana here full of techniques and tools, but I have to agree with Funnyhair: it would be too difficult to TAS for a beginner. RPGs always require you to pay attention to statistics and equipment, and it's not uncommon to find that you have to start over after you've almost finished the TAS. Secret of Mana is particularly difficult because you have to control three characters at the same time.
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Posted: 9/25/2009 3:05 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
thank you to you for your answers, but in fact I already try to make another game and see marios bros mario world 1 and then voila I want to do secret of mana because it's a game that marked my childhood, although I spend more than one year do I want to put my 1st TAS is secret of mana 3 control character does not break my big problem I already do the test for it but I need someone which explains all the tools I don need how to use and especially how to use the re-record and the rules so that the TAS is good and what to do and not do it for one day either validate I am aware of the stain that I force myself but I'm not afraid of this challenge is as hard THERE ps derakon you're french is very good
Posted: 9/25/2009 3:18 PM
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funnyhair
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There is a secret of mana thread in the SNES forums, everything should be explained regarding tricks and what not. As for other things, I would create a new topic, asking about certain things. There are a few areas on the site that will have information that people could link you to. There are other things that are not mentioned on the site. If your persistent about doing the secret of mana, You are going to need to get a memory watcher. I would recommend Gocha's memory watcher. Just type it into Google and the page should come up. I am very sorry if you have a tough time reading this. I enjoy giving help, but i speak no french.
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 9/25/2009 3:52 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
no problem trying to understand it with the google translator trying to tell me in English if not I understand I dirai.Sinon I read post secret of mana the author made a demo testing I I do too have a 9 win Segonds on his videos I will l "improve frams without some problems my main problem I just do not know me well use the re record I have several questions 1) file record snes there must be only one or I just send more? 2) when I record some videos and I quit the emulator before I made a save state.Je recovery I load the emulator or I stop and I run record from now it just clears my 1st video c ' is normal or I just continue on the same video file without deleting the 1st? if so how?
Posted: 9/25/2009 4:02 PM
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funnyhair
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Ok this is pretty simple. The function keys at the top of your key board (F1,F2..etc all the way to F10). Press the buttons to load the save state, Press shift and the button to create a save state. When you ready to start recording a movie, load the rom. Click file, record movie, and make sure it says, Record from now. Start playing. When your finished, make a save state and stop. When you want to continue recording, hit file, then click PLAY MOVIE. Please make sure "open read only" is NOT checked ( if it is, click the check mark to un-check it). Start the play back and load the save state. Then you can keep recording! You shouldn't try to record again, it will just record over.
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 9/25/2009 6:18 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
ok thank you it works by cons what are the rules and the setting was done to validate SAD and how little T'on To display the number of re record?
Posted: 9/25/2009 6:38 PM
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Kirkq
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Number of rerecords does not matter. We want good, fast videos, it does not matter how many times you reloaded/rerecorded. The ".smv" file records controller presses, and plays back controller presses. If your buttons are done from power on with no cheats used, they will be viewable and "validated" by us. You should use the Secret of Mana (U) [!] rom. Once you make a short video, upload the ".smv" file here: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php, and we can make sure it plays correctly for us. We validate by making sure the controller input plays back in normal circumstances. You may want to use these buttons to help see things: , = Display Input . = Display Frame Number Like funnyhair said, Open Read Only = WATCH movie Not Read Only = RECORD movie Use Shift / F1-F10 to save and reload Use Shift 8 to switch Open Read Only <--> Not Read Only Rules: MUST "Record from Reset" and "Clear SRAM" Warning: A good TAS for Secret of Mana will need to watch memory to manipulate random actions.
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Posted: 9/25/2009 7:08 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
ok thank you pliz possible you give me your msn to discuss all this? I have not quite understood
Posted: 9/25/2009 9:57 PM
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funnyhair
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i don't have msn, but feel free to write anyone here a Pm (personal message). We understand its difficult to speak in a language that's not your native language. Derakon speaks french, and others here might be able to help you out in french ( i don't know who speaks French or not).. If you have any questions that are a bit difficult for you to understand in English, feel free to contact someone in French, as it will help you understand it better.
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 9/25/2009 10:07 PM
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Derakon
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Je parle français un peu, mais je ne suis pas un TASer, alors probablement je ne peux pas vous aider avec les outils et les émulateurs vous serez en besoin de utiliser. Désolé. En tout cas vous pouvez me demander si vous avez des questions, mais il n'y a pas une sûreté que je peux vous aider. In English: I can speak a little French, but I'm not a TASer, so I probably can't help you with the tools and emulators you will need to use. Sorry. You can ask me if you have questions, but there's no guarantee I'll be able to help you.
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Posted: 9/25/2009 11:27 PM
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funnyhair
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Im sure theres someone else out there who speaks french
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 9/26/2009 4:09 AM
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Captain_Forehead
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Nahoc does, but I don't know if he has any knowledge on Secret of Mana.
Posted: 9/26/2009 11:36 AM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
Thansk for all but one last question THERE must make special adjustments to SAD? either graphic or sound settings?
Posted: 9/26/2009 11:37 AM
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Nahoc
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Je parle français. Parfaitement. PM moi pour me donner ton msn, je vais pouvoir t'aider.
Posted: 9/26/2009 11:44 AM
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fsvgm777
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Nahoc wrote:
Je parle français. Parfaitement. PM moi pour me donner ton msn, je vais pouvoir t'aider.
Translation for those who can't speak French: "I speak French. Perfectly. PM me to give me your MSN, I'll help you." Par ailleurs, moi aussi, je parle français, mais je n'ai pas TASé un jeu pour l'instant. (By the way, I speak French either, but I haven't TASed a game at the moment.)
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Posted: 9/26/2009 4:10 PM
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sylphine
Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: france
merci nahoc je t'ai mp mon msn si jamais ca deconne retourne mon mp en me donnant le tien
Posted: 9/28/2009 3:10 PM
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ZeXr0
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I don't know if it would be a good idea, but in the newbie corner section, there could be a thread like Discussion en francais (Discussion in french). So that people that are not native english speaker could that there and ask question, instead of posting directly. It could be either to ask to translate a post or something like that. It would make integration much easier. There could be one for every language that people need. In that case French would only be allowed in this thread and not in general discussion thread. That would remove the clutter of other language, and help new commer. What do you think ?
Posted: 9/28/2009 3:15 PM
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Derakon
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I'd be a bit worried about such a thread encouraging non-native speakers to avoid posting in the "pure" English threads. Even if it's not the intent, I could easily see it creating a sort of second-class citizen: "You go post in this thread over here, please; those of us who can speak English properly will use the rest of the board." I do think that whenever non-English languages are used, a translation should be provided in the same post, even if it's just Google Translate.
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Posted: 9/28/2009 5:26 PM
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BadPotato
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ZeXr0 wrote:
I don't know if it would be a good idea, but in the newbie corner section, there could be a thread like Discussion en francais (Discussion in french). So that people that are not native english speaker could that there and ask question, instead of posting directly. It could be either to ask to translate a post or something like that.
the site's already lost enought potential player from japan... so, why not? Actually, keep insisthing about translating every each post would be encouraging people for creating some sub-community like tasvideosfr.org (example) As long, as the topic is about helping people for getting started, this shouldn't be a problem.
Posted: 9/28/2009 6:12 PM
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ZeXr0
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Yeah, and I think it would be a good start for those that just want to ask quick question. Serious TASer that needs more information would have to post in the appropriate forums, but they could have help on how to ask that or that information. I don't think it would create a Second-Class forums. And it's for most of people that usually don't post in the forums. I'm a native french speaker, and I won't stop posting just because there's a thread where I can post in French.