Post subject: Final Fantasy V and VI dual TAS
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To tell the truth, I have experiences of TASing, though I’m Newbie. Today I’ll introduce my FF5j and FF6j dual TAS. I was very hesitate to introduce it due to language version and known improvements, but I decided to introduce it. Here is smv. -> http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/574326562/ff5j-ff6j-dualrun-v2.smv Please use a snes9x v1.43 with old savestates file type; Otherwise, crashed. Streaming medias are here. part1 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/11/ part2 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/12/ part3 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/13/ part4 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/14/ end credits -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/15/ I’ll explain about this run next post. [EDIT by moderator: To avoid needless content duplication, merged the two branches of posts into a new thread, here.]
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neo_omegon wrote:
To tell the truth, I have experiences of TASing, though I’m Newbie. Today I’ll introduce my FF5j and FF6j dual TAS. I was very hesitate to introduce it due to language version and known improvements, but I decided to introduce it.
Warning! Warning! Uematsu overdose! Thanks for the input display. You've certainly done a large job.
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Thank you, Bisqwit. In FF5, I had better luck manipulation and improvements from samuraigoroh’s run except for encount and the first boss, Wing Raptor battle. e.g.) skip Elven Mantle, skip healing jar when escaping Karnak, skip Ribbon, skip battle messages with the third Gilgamesh battle, etc. I sometimes took slower but funny ways. e.g.) the battle with Abductor at Solitary Island, Galuf vs Exdeath, etc. The time beating Merugene is definitely faster than samuraigoroh’s run, though I’m too lazy to calculate. I’m sorry that adjusting time after beating Merugene may be boring. EDIT: !Flee with holding on LR is the fastest way to run, though I noticed it in endgame. I’ll also post explanation about FF6 in this run in FF6’s thread. Next post is about FF6.
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In FF6, whole run is very identical with erokky’s run. Improvements accomplished from erokky’s run are these: -Changing magic order to six; Effect, Attack, Heal order. -Templar battles with a Mithril Claw stolen from Vargas and a Hyper Wrist from a treasure box at the basement of South Figaro in Locke’s quest. This allows you to beat Templar with only one critical hit. -Leo vs Kefka by using Fire Rods. This idea is originally from Catastrophe, and I improved it. -Avoiding pre-emptive in some battles. Sometimes it is slower due to a message display. Especially, retaking Gau in WoR, Gau’s gauge is zero and it’s slower if you take pre-emptive. (-using the glitch only in j version can be done. i.e. equipping Moogle Charm in any characters.) And I took different strategy at some point from erokky’s run, though ideas are from people’ in FF6's thread. -I got Cyan to Zozo alone. Running in each battle was faster, but changing equipments took some time. I don’t know which is faster, Cyan or Figaro brothers. -I set the battle speed to one before the final Ultros battle. The final Ultros battle itself was faster, but at the next boss battle with Air Force, I can’t avoid MagTekLaser. So I don’t know which battle speed is faster. -Before Banquet, erokky seemed to regret resting in toilet, but it’s the fastest because the timer is stopping during black screen, I think. Known improvements are these: Money management due to surplus Fire Rods, to manipulate NPC’s movements, avoiding monster treasures like tonic, potion and x-ether. But I’m not interested in improving it, because my goal is less than four hours. I hope you enjoy it.
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Sorry for double post but my old FF5j and FF6j dual run is here. -> http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/105771763/obsoleted-ff5j-ff6j-dualrun.smv.gz Please use a snes9x v1.51 with old savestates file type; Otherwise, crashed. Streaming media are here. (Sorry for no input display) part1 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/1/ part2 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/2/ part3 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/3/ part4 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/4/ part5 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/5/ part6 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/6/ part7 -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/7/ end credits -> http://zoome.jp/neo_omniscient/diary/8/ This is my first tool-assisted movie. I don't know why I made this run. I didn’t know how to manipulate luck at that time, so I took SDA’s Alex and Essentia’s strategy. Sorry for using their strategy without any permission.
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isn't it possible to skip the opening animations? would this save time, or is there some rule against it? and what is the fascination with playing two games at once?
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
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Nice, will watch it when I have the time :)
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funnyhair wrote:
isn't it possible to skip the opening animations? would this save time, or is there some rule against it? and what is the fascination with playing two games at once?
Most of the opening animations in both games are not skippable. The Final Fantasy V logo can be skipped at a certain point, and the Final Fantasy VI credits walk scene can be (and I believe was) skipped. And the fascination came from a joke that started the X1/X2 video. But doing 2 long RPGs? Blows my mind.
Taking over the world, one game at a time. Currently TASing: Nothing
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This is really quite amazing work. Good job Omegon!
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This massive overdose of Uematsu really needs to be published. I just finished watching it, and it is definitely awesome.
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Thank you for your feedbacks.
funnyhair wrote:
isn't it possible to skip the opening animations? would this save time, or is there some rule against it?
Concerning opening, if you have no save data, you can't skip title screen in FF5. In FF6, if you have seen opening, you can skip it. i.e. You have to see opening at least once. In RTA, start timing is starting New Game, but in TAS start timing is from reset. So we can't avoid seeing opening.
funnyhair wrote:
what is the fascination with playing two games at once?
Actually, I don't know why I made this run.
Sir VG wrote:
doing 2 long RPGs?
There are many cutscenes, and major luckmanipulation is boss battles. Encountering bunch of enemies and running is just a routine work. So efforts might be smaller than you expected.
catsith2 wrote:
This massive overdose of Uematsu really needs to be published.
If it would be published, I would be honorable. But I'd like to listen to other persons' opinion. Could I have a permission to submit?
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You can submit without anyone's permission neo_omegon ;) If nothing else, this will be one helluva gruefood delight... an honor in its own right.
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I very much agree with this post.
Bobmario511 wrote:
Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
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Thanks, Sticky. Okay, I’m going to write a submission text. Maybe copy and paste my above posts work fine, but I’ll add more information, so it might take some days.
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neo_omegon: thanks for clearing up my questions. Good luck. I love both of these games, and will be watching your progress. Good luck!
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool