What water is being referred to here?2000:M1 200 teleport fail into a hole trap, and fall down to the Vibrating Square level, autopicking up the lit Candelabrum (which can't have been in inventory at this point or it would have been extinguished when we fell ino the water). Because this is the last action of the turn, this hypercharges the monsters on the destination level.
2002:58 Zero-time artiblast depolymorph. (We could just polymorph at
turn boundary, but the previous turn is so low-probability
that manipulating a polymorph at 2002:^ would be out of the
range of plausible luck.)Even if these strategies can somehow be made to work, we're still only saving three actions before turn 2013. To get a 2014-turn run, we need to save four. Thus, we still need to find extra savings somewhere, or else 2015 is still the theoretical limit. 2014 is not looking as insurmountable an obstacle as it did a few weeks ago, though.
So the current state of the TAS is that, after a long period of it being stuck because both dwangoAC and I were busy with other things, we found a major new glitch that completely changes the end of the game (and thus what we have to do to prepare for it). For people who don't know NetHack: because the game accepts sub-frame input (and the limiting factor on realtime is normally either lag or your keyboard bandwidth), realtime doesn't make much sense for a TAS. So we're doing gametime instead. The area containing one particular item that's needed to beat the game unlocks at turn 2000 (this is due to a programming oversight; nobody really noticed until people started speedrunning NetHack really competitively, because normal gameplay will get there well after turn 2000). A gametime speedrun is thus dedicated to preparing as well as you can so that when turn 2000 hits, you can complete the game as quickly as possible from that point. Previously, the theoretical maximum was believed to be 2015 turns (and because the seed we're using corresponds to a date in 2015, we wanted to be finished in 2015, although really the progress isn't going nearly fast enough; dwangoAC is rather optimistic about that). The new glitch has been confirmed to work (we actually persuaded a player who was near the end of a non-speedrun playthrough on a public server to incorporate it into their game in order to verify the glitch; public server play is popular because it lets you prove you aren't cheating). No speedruns have been completed incorporating the new glitch yet, but there's a theoretical plan to complete the game on 2006, just 7 turns after the unlock. You can read it on my website here. Unfortunately, the new glitch cannot be performed efficiently on the seed we have (it looks like we'd have to waste a whole turn), which means that to use optimally we'd have to restart (although things would go a lot quicker the second time because we're re-TASing ground we've already been over). Additionally, many of the things we've done to set up so far don't make sense in the context of the new glitch. Currently, the situation is that another potential new glitch has been found (via code tracing). It hasn't been confirmed yet; the setup is highly specific (and although there are multiple potential setups, some of which might be humanly possible, the fastest candidate for a setup seems to be TAS-only). This new glitch may well go even faster, and as a bonus probably doesn't conflict with our current seed, meaning that we may be able to incorporate it into the run via the use of a lot of hexing, as opposed to having to redo the run.
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
If you're so close to finishing the 2015 turn TAS but still yet to investigate all the new discoveries that require completely revamping the plan (which would delay the submission by months at best), why not finish and submit the 2015-turn first, using the 2015-turn era knowledge, while it's still the year 2015.
I agree with Moozooh. I'm sure the set up and payoff of the 2006-turn run will be amazing, but the 2015-turn run already does a ton of interesting stuff that many people will love to see. And the existence of the 2015 run won't diminish the accomplishment of the 2006 run any.
If you're so close to finishing the 2015 turn TAS but still yet to investigate all the new discoveries that require completely revamping the plan (which would delay the submission by months at best), why not finish and submit the 2015-turn first, using the 2015-turn era knowledge, while it's still the year 2015. Get it published, then work out further improvements without such a pressing need (and then submit again). It's not like the 2015 turn plan is sloppy or anything...
unable to handle the levport immediately; and then, before the levport actually kicks in, to get teleported again onto the Amulet and autopick it up. If I haven't misread the code too badly, this should lead to the levport happening and the Amulet coming along for the ride. I haven't confirmed this yet, though, because such a situation is very awkward to set up.
TAS.time_between_updates = rnz(100); //daysI'm tempted to say go out with the 2003 plan, but then with these major discoveries killing the endgame from 2015 turns to 2003/4, chances are someone or group will find an even better route. 0_o
