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What would the encoders here recommend?
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Encoders here use MEncoder to encode. If you're a Windows user and would like to do other kind of editing than just encoding, I recommend VirtualDub.
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Virtualdub is nice, it's free and simple to use. Avisynth has more powerful functions, but is harder to use.
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Read the rules that How to make AVI. Use the VirtualDub. Read the program requirements that how to encode the avi.
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If you want do something more complex that cropping, adding filters and encoding, then you might want to use something like Sony Vegas or Adobe Premiere...Those are not meant to be free though =\
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KRocketneo wrote:
Read the rules that How to make AVI. Use the VirtualDub. Read the program requirements that how to encode the avi.
I wasn't asking how to publish movies for the site.
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Deep Loner wrote:
I wasn't asking how to publish movies for the site.
no, actually you were asking a question that was so badly worded that it's difficult to give a good answer without guessing a lot. Try asking more specific questions and giving more detail. The important thing is, what do you want to use the "avi editor" for? Are you talking about simple encoding / transcoding-jobs, do you need to add several videos together / do cutting, or do you need something to add effects, captions, copyright-messages or other things to videos? Maybe something completely different? Unless you word your questions carefully, you shouldn't be picky about answers that don't exactly match the question. By the way, this is a good read. Not about video editing, but about asking questions.
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If I could borrow this thread for a sec... I took a movie with my digital camera and I recorded it with the camera aimed vertically rather than horizontally. Now the AVI file is turned on its side. Does anyone know how I can rotate the movie file? All I have for editing is Windows Movie Maker and their option resizes the image to fit in a standard 320x240, squashing the movie.
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mencoder gives you the rotate filter. You'll need to specify the full range of codec options for the video as this involve image reconstruction. -vf rotate=1 or 2 depending on the direction you need it rotated.
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Thank you for the suggestion DeHackEd, but I don't suppose there is a less programming-intensive option? If you recall my troubles from last summer, I am quite unskilled in the art of command-line computer usage.
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If your encoding the movie for the submission only when you have the Accepted submission. So, you can encode the video into AVI like the rerecording emulator. ZSNES will encode the AVI videos. Putting in the best quality of videos will have more size of the videos. If your gonna encode this videos, read the How to Make AVI below. I was making my AVI videos for my game playback.
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KRocketneo wrote:
If your encoding the movie for the submission only when you have the Accepted submission. So, you can encode the video into AVI like the rerecording emulator. ZSNES will encode the AVI videos. Putting in the best quality of videos will have more size of the videos. If your gonna encode this videos, read the How to Make AVI below. I was making my AVI videos for my game playback.
Deep Loner wrote:
KRocketneo wrote:
Read the rules that How to make AVI. Use the VirtualDub. Read the program requirements that how to encode the avi.
I wasn't asking how to publish movies for the site.
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Guybrush wrote:
Encoders here use MEncoder to encode. If you're a Windows user and would like to do other kind of editing than just encoding, I recommend VirtualDub.
Note that VirtualDub is little more than just a re-encoder with filters. It's not a video editor software. VirtualDub is nice when you want to, for example, re-encode a video (and/or its sound) with different settings of with a different codec, or perhaps apply some filters to the image. One typical example where I have found VirtualDub useful was when I captured video from my TV card and then wanted to re-encode it to a smaller avi using xvid as well as applying deinterlacing and temporal smoother filters to it. However, with VirtualDub you won't be able to edit videos. Video editing in this context means that you take a video, cut it, preview it, add perhaps another video in between, add a soundtrack, mix different soundtracks into one, fade from one soundtrack to another, add subtitles, etc etc.
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Warp wrote:
Guybrush wrote:
However, with VirtualDub you won't be able to edit videos. Video editing in this context means that you take a video, cut it, preview it, add perhaps another video in between, add a soundtrack, mix different soundtracks into one, fade from one soundtrack to another, add subtitles, etc etc.
You can do all that with VirtualDub. Though it may require a little skill and few fancy tricks, but they are doable ;)
Which run should I encode next? :)
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Yeah, you can do that with a hex editor too. It still doesn't make the hex editor a video editing software. ;)
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Virtualdub's probably the best combo of features and usability.
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Actually, Tub was right, and I appreciate that he said what he did kindly. I like his link about asking questions. I'll try VirtualDub and Avisynth, but I admittedly should have done my own homework before posting here in the forum. Thanks for the help everybody.
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VirtualDub isn't complete in features. Use VirtualDubMod which offers even more in Video Encoding/Editing.
Warp wrote:
Yeah, you can do that with a hex editor too. It still doesn't make the hex editor a video editing software. ;)
You are wrong about it. VirtualDub is especially designed to cut, add, mix and preview all your editings in a seperate window. It also offers many useful filters, and it also supports subtitles (although not the most handiest way, but still). I use VirtualDub for a long time now, and never had any serious complains about it. It's everything you need for video editing/encoding.
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Boco wrote:
KRocketneo wrote:
If your encoding the movie for the submission only when you have the Accepted submission. So, you can encode the video into AVI like the rerecording emulator. ZSNES will encode the AVI videos. Putting in the best quality of videos will have more size of the videos. If your gonna encode this videos, read the How to Make AVI below. I was making my AVI videos for my game playback.
Deep Loner wrote:
KRocketneo wrote:
Read the rules that How to make AVI. Use the VirtualDub. Read the program requirements that how to encode the avi.
I wasn't asking how to publish movies for the site.
Without exception, I fail to understand the point of posts that consist entirely of quotes.
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It's usually done to answer a recent post with text from a previous post. As if to say "that issue was already raised an answered, and since you're too lazy to find it yourself, I will repost it to mock you."
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DeHackEd wrote:
It's usually done to answer a recent post with text from a previous post. As if to say "that issue was already raised an answered, and since you're too lazy to find it yourself, I will repost it to mock you."
And in this case the mocking will either be ignored or not comprehended by the mockee. I'm still not sure which :\
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Deep Loner wrote:
Actually, Tub was right, and I appreciate that he said what he did kindly. I like his link about asking questions.
You're welcome. I've given this speech/link on several occasions, but you're the first one to actually read the link, learn from it and acknowledge your oversight. Thumbs up!
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Bisqwit wrote:
Without exception, I fail to understand the point of posts that consist entirely of quotes.
DeHackEd wrote:
It's usually done to answer a recent post with text from a previous post. As if to say "that issue was already raised an answered, and since you're too lazy to find it yourself, I will repost it to mock you."
mmbossman wrote:
And in this case the mocking will either be ignored or not comprehended by the mockee. I'm still not sure which :\
I've done this a few times, not to mock someone, but just to tacitly point out that the point in question had already been addressed. But if this is widely interpreted as "mocking" the person, then I'll definitely not do it again.
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Saturn wrote:
VirtualDub isn't complete in features. Use VirtualDubMod which offers even more in Video Encoding/Editing.
Each time I have tried VirtualDubMod, it has malfunctioned (I don't remember now how, perhaps an access violation crash).
Warp wrote:
Yeah, you can do that with a hex editor too. It still doesn't make the hex editor a video editing software. ;)
You are wrong about it. VirtualDub is especially designed to cut, add, mix and preview all your editings in a seperate window.
Then those features are really hidden. The only features I have found are selecting *part* of the input video to be processed (which is more limited than full-blown cutting), and appending another video to the end of the current video. That another video must have the *exact* same specifications as the current video: resolution and especially framerate, which in AVIs is, IIRC, a 32-bit value denothing something like milliseconds or whatever, and which seldom is the same in two videos which have been created eg. by capturing. Each time I have had to append a video to another I have had to hex-edit the headers of the avis in order to make the framerates equal or else virtualdub refuses to append them. I don't remember ever seen anything even remotely related to mixing in VirtualDub. Perhaps it's just a hidden feature. In a full-blown video editing software you usually have tracks. You can put videos (*any* videos, regardless of resolution and framerate) at any location in any of the tracks, mix between the tracks by eg. fading, move the videos inside the tracks, stretch them, change their scale, etc. You also have audio tracks which work similarly: You can put any audio samples anywhere in any of the tracks, you can mix them, fade between them, stretch them, change their volume, etc etc.