If there's no registration required, how is it not open to everyone? If people are already registered on the forum, they can simply send the author a pm, they don't need a special button that does it for them.
Oh, I thought by "open" you meant "visible to everyone" instead of "allowed for everyone". What I meant was that there should be no registration required, and the messages should be private. It would work just like FODA described. With PMs, trolling/whining etc. would be pretty minimal.
The idea about NVA announcing comments on IRC is pretty bad, IMO. I definitely think that the comments should be addressed to specific TASers, and not every runner is on IRC. The comments could also easily be missed on IRC. I don't really understand your approve/disapprove option though, could you elaborate?
The idea about NVA announcing comments on IRC is pretty bad, IMO. I definitely think that the comments should be addressed to specific TASers, and not every runner is on IRC.
Also, remember that there are quite a few members on the irc channel who don't TAS at all. The new topic indicator by NVA is sufficient enough, and anything else would be overkill and, not to mention, extremely annoying.
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When i said that the message would not be open for everyone i meant that anyone can send, but it would only be visible to the author. Sorry bad choice of words.
@xkeeper: read the post, and not only the thread title. actually, you can read just the thread title, but then don't reply.
I don't really understand your approve/disapprove option though, could you elaborate?
NesVideoAgent: Couldn't you improve this movie by grabbing the laser weapon in level 2, to speed up later boss fights?
Kyrsimys: *Approved
NesVideoAgent: If you don't post this to 5 other TASes you will die in 1 hour!
Chamale: *Denied
a few problems:
1) Good luck implementing the AI to detect such a sequence.
2) If you ever hang around the IRC channel, you'll find that messages such as these are often ignored, scorned, and are unecessary. We don't need constant reminders to tell us that we should be bug hunting when we are just want to idle, or are discussing other matters.
3) Often there are only a few active members in the irc channel. The chances that a message involving tas strategy that would concern said members are quite slim.
4) If there IS TAS talk on the irc channel, chances are that the current discovery is already being discussed.
5) Who checks IRC history? A static message posted in a forum is MUCH MUCH more likely to be noticed rather than a fleeting message by NVA.
6) The idea is stupid (read points 1-5), and will clutter up the IRC channel.
7) Also cocks.
AHAHAH I didn't think I'd ever find anyone else who knew about that.
on topic: I still think that this feature would be a redundant one, all other arguments aside. It's frilly, unnecessary.
so this suggestion is targeted at a specific subset of viewers, namely:
- they must be knowledgeable about the game in question. In fact, they must be knowledgeable enough to provide useful feedback to someone who spent many hours with the game, did a lot of research and probably has detailed information about game physics, memory locations and other stuff you'll only know if you've used "the tools" before.
- although obviously interested in games and tool-assistance, they must not be registered here and do not intend to.
- they are too lazy to register here.
- they are not too lazy to read the submission comments, which should address anything that looks suboptimal but isn't. Otherwise their comments are likely to be redundant, thus worthless.
- they are not too lazy to re-visit the site after watching the movie. (this is not youtube where you can dump your comments under the video. our videos are not embedded.)
somehow I don't see how this comment-system will lead to ground-breaking information.
For me it wouldn't be about discovering new tricks and such, it would be about what they thought about the movie, did they like it or not and why etc. And besides, you don't need to have knowledge of memory addresses to give good suggestions anyway.
- they must be knowledgeable about the game in question. In fact, they must be knowledgeable enough to provide useful feedback to someone who spent many hours with the game, did a lot of research and probably has detailed information about game physics, memory locations and other stuff you'll only know if you've used "the tools" before.
- although obviously interested in games and tool-assistance, they must not be registered here and do not intend to.
- they are too lazy to register here.
- they are not too lazy to read the submission comments, which should address anything that looks suboptimal but isn't. Otherwise their comments are likely to be redundant, thus worthless.
- they are not too lazy to re-visit the site after watching the movie. (this is not youtube where you can dump your comments under the video. our videos are not embedded.)
A good list, definitely.
I suppose to elaborate on my original post,
The comments section would be used for one of a few htings (or probably more)
- WTF YOU ChETAER! LOLZ (hence the need for moderation seperate from the forums, i.e. more work for everyone involved)
- Redundant questions that could be answered by the FAQ/submission text/forum thread
- Useless spam (buy viagra!)
- Actual useful comments (that would be better placed in the submission thread)
Most if not all of these are solved by simply not having a comments area. In general,
- Having a comments area gives a user a quick way to be lazy and ask for information
- Not having one requires the user to actually look up the informtaion themselves, and possibly learn more (reading FAQ/submission)
No matter how I look at it, it's better to stick with what we have rather than try something like this.
A way to fix that would be to impelment email services for guests (require a captcha and all that crap) and give members an option to recieve email from non-registered users.
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