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Okay, here's my plan for a speedrun on console. Most of it would also be applicable to a TAS, so I thought you all might want to see it. Any polite criticisms are welcome. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26J8DNMC
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Floogal wrote:
Okay, here's my plan for a speedrun on console. Most of it would also be applicable to a TAS, so I thought you all might want to see it. Any polite criticisms are welcome. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26J8DNMC
Have you seen the unassisted run for this game at this website? http://speeddemosarchive.com/PaperMario.html
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theres too much segments to download
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I know, I HATE downloading segmented runs from SDA.
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It's quite easy with an FTP program like Filezilla.
What's a man like me supposed to do with all this extra savoir-faire?
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Filezilla?? EDIT: make sure that when u do ur spin move to jump at the end of it, to get a little more speed
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If you're using Firefox, then I would recommend using this to download many files: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/201 Anyways, yes, I have watched the existing run at speeddemosarchive. My plan is a potential replacement for it, shaving off at least 20 minutes.
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i was planning on making a single segment paper mario run at speeddemosarchive, and hav a few lil tricks, not much, i no that u should get the last boots before u go to chapter 6
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You can't get the Ultra Boots until mid-Chapter 6 (you need Lakilester). And the time saved on Huff N. Puff from getting them early is not nearly large enough to offset the detour necessary. Have you read my plan yet? I really would like some comments/help on it.
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no not yet EDIT: how do i look at it once i download it? EDIT2: nevermind
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i looked over it, it took a long time. on the goomba king, can u power jump headbonk then use fireflower?? or would that not be enough to kill him?
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The Fire Flower does the same damage as Mario's Power Jump, so it's pointless for Mario to use it.
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oh, sorry, i havent played in a while, since i tried to do a single segment....
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Floogal wrote:
Okay, here's my plan for a speedrun on console. Most of it would also be applicable to a TAS, so I thought you all might want to see it. Any polite criticisms are welcome. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26J8DNMC
It all looks pretty good, but I dunno, something about leveling up got confusing around the Koopa Bros castle guide. It's more of just a readability error if anything. But anyway, *applauds*
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does that mean your making a TAS of this, and a regular speedrun floogal?
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A2ZOMG wrote:
[...] something about leveling up got confusing around the Koopa Bros castle guide. It's more of just a readability error if anything.
For most battles, I show Mario's complete stats before the battle begins, and right after the battle ends. At one point in the Koopa Bros. Fortress, you fight 3 fights in a row, so I only showed the before-stats & gave one single after-stats for after the 3 fights. Oh yeah, level 2.18 means that Mario is at level 2, and he has a total of 18 star points (he needs 82 more to level up). Does that clear up the confusion? Oh yeah, I'm working towards a console speedrun, not a tas. But this would be a good starting point for a TAS -- simply have Mario do more than 5 bounces in some instances, use Close Call instead of Bow to dodge the Lava Piranha's attacks, etc.
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i would happily do it, stupid computer not working though, i dont know wats wrong with it
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pyromaniac wrote:
i would happily do it, stupid computer not working though, i dont know wats wrong with it
Take it to a repair shop?
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I think for a Console Run, you should abuse the Charge Badge for either the Hammer or the Jump, or both. Of course, same could be used for a TAS as well. :3 It could potentially save more time than it wastes to get the Jump Charge and Hammer Charge Badges. All you need to do is charge up for a few rounds most of the time, and use your Power Bounce to inflict massive damage. Once Goombario gets his Charge ability, using his Multibonk could become a Time Saver as well. Just make sure you pick up the Spike Shield Badge from the Tutankoopa Fortress at the beginning. :3 Let me know what you think about this. ;3
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I'm two steps ahead of you. Here's the link to the first draft of my plan, in case you missed it from the previous page http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26J8DNMC As you can read, I do abuse the Jump Charge/Power Bounce from Huff N. Puff onwards. Spike Shield is collected, but only used for Jr. Troopa #4.
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Well. At least we both had the same idea about what badges to abuse huh? :3
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I would love to see a Paper Mario TAS. I can get this game work gr8 on Pj64, Video : Glide64 0.5 Sound : any you like Input : any you like The bad thing is that its preety hard to see the text when choosing badges, and selecting an battle command.
Those who sees this must accept that TAS'es almost skips the whole game..
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i dont have any money to bring it to a shop =\
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It has been a while since I last checked up on progress here. Has anything been done on this TAS? Or has it died?
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Given the lack of luck-based battle tricks or precision platforming moves, this would hardly be better than a decent speedrun. Probably the only real advantages would be luck-manipulating final Bowser and skipping Bow entirely in Tubba's Castle. Now, a TAS should really try for low% or 100% -- both would have some real advantages. low%: - manipulating Fright Jars to work completely every time. - manipulating status ailments to always work on bosses 100%: - getting Chuck Quizmo to always appear - always winning the Jump Attack game for an easy 900+ coins (need over 2300 to get all badges).
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