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Inzult and xebra: Thanks for the explanation about the textbooks. Too bad there isn't some way to get such good resolution without compromising the readability. That part about being able to erase the ink might provide some fun after I've graduated and don't need the books any longer.
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Boco wrote:
To: everyone I've been playing a lot of Guilty Gear XX^Core lately, and I'm not very good. I want to learn how to be an aggressive player who never lets up pressure and is always rushing towards the opponent. So far my best character is Ky, but since I have like 15 hours experience I could learn anyone easly enough. What characters are reccomended for this playstyle, and how should I learn it? (my playgroup consists of about 10 people divided into three tiers of skill and I'm at the bottom of the 2nd tier - I can beat 100% of the time all the casually interested people, I lose 100% of the time against all the tournament level people, and I can beat the middle people only when they make mistakes or choose characters that aren't their main characters).
I've been lurking forever and this is the first time I've felt that I can actually contribute something, so I registered :p I suggest you pick up normal Sol, he is similar to Ky to but has (imo) better and easier pressure. Gunflame FRC is really really good and not that hard to get down, his command throw has good range, is a great mixup tool and leads to good damage. Most basic combos are easy and do good damage, and when you are used to them you can start going for sidewinder combos which are harder but more damaging. Millia is very good for rushdown as well, but lots of her high damage combos are character specific. I really like most of the options she has but learning X variations for each b'n'b combo is just too annoying.
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dzug wrote:
I suggest you pick up normal Sol, he is similar to Ky to but has (imo) better and easier pressure.
Thanks for the advice. I was a little wary about the new Sol [edit: by which I mean "no ground viper"] since he's changed quite a bit from XX, but I didn't know him that well in XX (or X) anyway so learning him again won't take any more effort. I was also thinking of picking up Chipp for the sheer speed factor (and I really like his new dust telepo.. but we don't have any good Chipp players so I don't know if well-played Chipp plays like I want). Robo-Ky is also an option but the sheer neccessity of 2D means he's slow (even if his super is the best in the game). I'll keep practicing Ky and give Sol a lot of attention too. At the very least, studying the basics with them will give me an edge on learning other chras if I decide to switch.
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Dacicus wrote:
Inzult and xebra: Thanks for the explanation about the textbooks. Too bad there isn't some way to get such good resolution without compromising the readability. That part about being able to erase the ink might provide some fun after I've graduated and don't need the books any longer.
But don't you want to sell the books in top condition? Be nice to those who need your books after you!
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I have a strong sense in biology and science, so this question is coming from that standpoint: How is it that people believe a person can be inherently born with homosexuality? As pointed out in one of these ask me threads, the meaning of life from a biology standpoint is to reproduce. If there is a gene or trait passed down from parent to offspring that codes for the desire to only be with the same sex, wouldn't that child never reproduce, thus ending the genes existence? I understand in the past (and to a certain extent today) that social influences may have pushed someone who "felt" like they were supposed to be gay into heterosexual relationships. But with today's somewhat more accepting stance on the issue, if homosexuality is biologically driven, shouldn't we see the trait or gene die out due to it's inherent inability to reproduce?
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mmbossman wrote:
if homosexuality is biologically driven, shouldn't we see the trait or gene die out due to it's inherent inability to reproduce?
I don't know if homosexuality is actually controlled by genes or not. But if it was, a simple explanation would be the "homosexuality gene" is recessive. A person with a copy of this gene from one parent and a regular gene from the other would still be "normal" but have genotype HN, and if they meet someone else who has the HN genotype their offspring can have the genotype HH/HN/NN, or if this someone else has the NN genotype their offspring can have genotype HN/NN, but in both cases the offspring with genotype HN can continue to disseminate the H gene.
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I really, seriously doubt that something like that can be 100% born in. It seems to be a preferance, just like any other. Can a person be born prefering coke to pepsi? The better question is why a preferance like that can not be viewed in a light where one decision is an identity defining thing. People arnt really free to pick what they like today or tomarrow without being branded "gay" or straight". Overall, its a topic too many people have put too much time worrying about.
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Nature (life) does not only care about reproduction. Why would everyone have to reproduce? I think there are enough humans as it is. People can be "born homosexual", just as people can be "born heterosexual". No one is really born with a sexuality though. Sexuality is developed. All humans are born asexual (without sexuality). The meaning of life can't be to reproduce because what's the point of reproduction? To live. But the meaning of life can't be to live either, because why live? Because it's fun, and that is the meaning of life.
mmbossman wrote:
If there is a gene or trait passed down from parent to offspring that codes for the desire to only be with the same sex, wouldn't that child never reproduce, thus ending the genes existence?
Sexuality doesn't have to do with genes. Sexuality is a feeling, a thought.
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Twelvepack wrote:
I really, seriously doubt that something like that can be 100% born in. It seems to be a preferance, just like any other.
Homosexuality has been found in many animals, from sea lions to cockroaches. Does this mean that a cockroach has somewhere along the way decided to like male cockroaches instead of female cockroaches? EDIT: Actually, looking at your post in more detail, there seems to be a contradiction: You say homosexuality is a preference, but then you say that it's not 100% born in. If homosexuality is just a preference, it has to be 0% born in. IIRC a study has been made about homosexuality among identical twins, and it concluded that if the other twin was homosexual, there was something like a 50% chance that the other twin was homosexual as well. This would imply that the effect of genes (or whatever, I don't know anything about biology) and the effect of the environment is 50-50.
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I'm pretty sure there's some genetic component to homosexuality, but like many genetic factors, it needs to be "activated" by an appropriate environment, whether that be a neonatal one or one during childhood. I can make up a story where it's good for the species as a whole to have some homosexuals in it, but like all evolutionary biology stories it seems really pointless. (I can basically give a story for how some trait is the way it is because it was beneficial in the past, but I can aso give the opposite story and it still make ssense, so the whole storytelling thing is stupid and I see it waaaaaay way way too much in Cognitive Science). Anyway there are a lot of advantages to homosexuality in the societal rather than personal context, yeah. As to it dying out now that homosexuals have little pressure to breed... http://www.tailsteak.com/archive.php?num=118
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Kyrsimys wrote:
Homosexuality has been found in many animals, from sea lions to cockroaches. Does this mean that a cockroach has somewhere along the way decided to like male cockroaches instead of female cockroaches?
I see no reason to rule that out as a possability. Animals seem to have preferances about other things, I dont see why we should exclude the idea that it might be much the same question for them as it is us.
EDIT: Actually, looking at your post in more detail, there seems to be a contradiction: You say homosexuality is a preference, but then you say that it's not 100% born in. If homosexuality is just a preference, it has to be 0% born in.
0% is not 100%. We can discuss how there may be roots of a preferance in genitics, but I fail to see the contradiction here.
IIRC a study has been made about homosexuality among identical twins, and it concluded that if the other twin was homosexual, there was something like a 50% chance that the other twin was homosexual as well. This would imply that the effect of genes (or whatever, I don't know anything about biology) and the effect of the environment is 50-50.
Keep in mind that these studies do conclusivly rule out the idea that homosexuality is 100% genetic, as 2 people with the same genes are not both homosexual (in some cases). trying to figue out what percentage of nature vs nurture is impossable. That study does not show that its 50-50, but what it does show (if your numbers are correct) is that having a homosexual twin increases the likely hood that you will also be homosexual. This could be because you grew up in the same house, had the same parents, knew the same people, or it could be genetic. With twins, it is fact that they have the same genetics, but its also true that they share a lot of common experiance (in the mroe common case where they were raised together). It is difficult to seperate the effect of their identical genes from their similar life experiances.
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Twelvepack wrote:
This could be because you grew up in the same house, had the same parents, knew the same people, or it could be genetic. With twins, it is fact that they have the same genetics, but its also true that they share a lot of common experiance (in the mroe common case where they were raised together). It is difficult to seperate the effect of their identical genes from their similar life experiances.
This is true, but it's been shown that comorbidity of homosexuality among monozygote twins is higher than the comorbidity of homosexuality among dizygote twins, so there is at least some genetic component. I think enironment is more important personally, but there is some evidence that at least part of it is genetic.
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Kyrsimys wrote:
Homosexuality has been found in many animals, from sea lions to cockroaches. Does this mean that a cockroach has somewhere along the way decided to like male cockroaches instead of female cockroaches?
How does the word "preference" imply that sexuality is chosen? If you prefer apples instead of oranges, how is that a choice? Taste can't be chosen.
Boco wrote:
This is true, but it's been shown that comorbidity of homosexuality among monozygote twins is higher than the comorbidity of homosexuality among dizygote twins, so there is at least some genetic component. I think enironment is more important personally, but there is some evidence that at least part of it is genetic.
But isn't there a difference (in appearance and personality) between monozygote and dizygote twins? In that case the environment (ie. the twins) is a bit different.
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nfq wrote:
How does the word "preference" imply that sexuality is chosen? If you prefer apples instead of oranges, how is that a choice? Taste can't be chosen.
What about acquired tastes?
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Does anyone know why the first time I shampoo my hair is just slippery, but the second time I shampoo it gets sudsy? Why do I have to shampoo twice to get all the foam?
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because soap binds to oils. the second time, there is less oil to bind to.
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DarkKobold: I hate to call you out on this, particularly since you said I was right, but what does information theory being a branch of mathematics have anything to do with the question? Mathematics is a non-physical abstraction (or is at least easily viewed that way.) Telling Warp, "There is a non-physical abstraction called information theory that studies this," doesn't really answer the question of how something non-physical is transfered physically.
It had already been stated numerous times, that the only thing transfered was physical, i.e. the paper and arrangement of ink. Everything else is an abstraction purely based on information theory. But yeah, I can see where it wouldn't seem to be an answer.
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nfq wrote:
How does the word "preference" imply that sexuality is chosen? If you prefer apples instead of oranges, how is that a choice? Taste can't be chosen.
So if a preference is not a choice and it's not in your biology, what is it? Is it the environment that makes you like apples instead of oranges? If so, are you implying that if everyone lived in the same environment under the same circumstances, we would all have identical preferences?
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I've got a question: What if the regular crystal structure of water ice were to appear black? (That is, water vapor and regular water wouldn't be affected.) The polar caps would maybe melt and reappear in a very strange cycle. Would this cause constant flooding? Or would there be a constant "simmering" where every little ice crystal would melt immediately? How would the climate behave, and how would this look? (This thought was inspired by the duality of diamond and graphite.)
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Kyrsimys wrote:
Is it the environment that makes you like apples instead of oranges? If so, are you implying that if everyone lived in the same environment under the same circumstances, we would all have identical preferences?
Yes, but it's impossible that two persons could live under exactly the same circumstances. First of all those two persons would have to be identical because the human body is part of the environment that programs us. Think about it. Why do most people become heterosexual? It has to do with the environment ("nature") programming us, and the only "environment" that is similar for all people is our body, which is either male or female.
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What about acquired tastes?
It's possible to intentionally acquire a taste and also change a sexual preference, beliefs and all kinds of mental things, but that's not so common because most people don't know how to do it consciously. Why would someone choose to become homosexual? Only if there is something in the environment that forces them to do it. And they do it subconsciously, because 'no one' knows how to change sexuality consciously.
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I don't believe for a second that homosexuality is entirely caused (for the lack of a better word) by the environment. My sister is gay and looking back at our childhood it's very obvious that she has been a very stereotypical lesbian for a very long time. I have home videos of her saying at the age of 6 that she will never ever have kids and that her dream is to become a truck driver (I am dead serious). She refused to wear the dresses our parents bought her and always insisted on keeping her hair short. If the environment decides who becomes a homosexual, why are there homosexual children in ALL kinds of families? You would expect that the deciding factor would be something in the parents, be it an overprotecting mother, an absent father or something like that. Why is there no pattern to who is a homosexual and who is not? Is it just some random factor which decides who becomes a homosexual?
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Kyrsimys wrote:
If the environment decides who becomes a homosexual, why are there homosexual children in ALL kinds of families? You would expect that the deciding factor would be something in the parents, be it an overprotecting mother, an absent father or something like that.
Not really, because the "environment" we're taling about is probably "before age 2". Sexuality is set very early in life. For example, as the number of male children in a family increase, the chance that a new male child is homosexual increases. By a significant margin. The best explanation we have is the neonatal environment's hormone balance - a mother who consistently bears male children will have a different physiology than a mother who doesn't, and for some reason this change causes an increased chance of homosexuality; ie, even hormone levels in the womb matter and count as environmental factors.
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mmbossman wrote:
I have a strong sense in biology and science, so this question is coming from that standpoint: How is it that people believe a person can be inherently born with homosexuality? As pointed out in one of these ask me threads, the meaning of life from a biology standpoint is to reproduce. If there is a gene or trait passed down from parent to offspring that codes for the desire to only be with the same sex, wouldn't that child never reproduce, thus ending the genes existence? I understand in the past (and to a certain extent today) that social influences may have pushed someone who "felt" like they were supposed to be gay into heterosexual relationships. But with today's somewhat more accepting stance on the issue, if homosexuality is biologically driven, shouldn't we see the trait or gene die out due to it's inherent inability to reproduce?
You may usually have a "strong sense" in science, but you lack sophisticated thoughts concerning gene expression and heredity. Genes do not occur in isolation, they overlap and intertwine, interacting with each other in ways that are very difficult to understand, much less predict. I guarantee you there is no single gene that codes for homosexuality. Rather, there are a great many genes that may make it more or less likely that homosexuality is expressed in an individual, and they all affect the expression of other traits, as well. Even if you take the view that homosexuality is negative from an evolutionary standpoint (i.e. homosexuals don't reproduce, so "homo genes" shouldn't get passed on), you have to realize that many of the genes that promote homosexuality probably have various advantageous effects in heterosexuals. Also consider that it's likely that many of the genes that promote homosexuality differ between men and women, and that "dyke" genes may be advantageous for males, while "faggot" genes may be advantageous for females. ---- Leviticus 18 (TNIV) 22Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. Leviticus 20 (TNIV) 13If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Leviticus 28 (MUBT) 14But two chicks going at it is quite pleasing.
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xebra, Can you please not bring your personal crusade against the Abrahamic religions into every topic? Make your own. I can explain you the meaning of this passage there (though you won't listen because you're a troll).
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Kyrsimys wrote:
If the environment decides who becomes a homosexual, why are there homosexual children in ALL kinds of families? You would expect that the deciding factor would be something in the parents, be it an overprotecting mother, an absent father or something like that. Why is there no pattern to who is a homosexual and who is not? Is it just some random factor which decides who becomes a homosexual?
Because both nature and nurture matter, obviously. ~20,000 genes, even larger amounts of non-protein encoding DNA, and endlessly variable environments interact in ways that are hard to predict.
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