Post subject: What percentage of TAS watchers have seen exactly one TAS
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...and what percentage of these people actually know what a TAS is? Obviously there is no way to know these numbers for sure but what is your best guess? Also I am defining "TAS watcher" as anyone who has ever watched a TAS regardless of if they knew it was one or not. My best guess is 1 percent of all TAS watchers have seen exactly 1 TAS and out of these people over half of them don't know what a TAS is. Also I am guessing the reason for this is because no matter how much you try to inform someone of what a TAS is over the internet some people won't recieve this information no matter what you do. The people most likely to not get this information are the people who have never seen a TAS or only seen one.
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The people most likely to not get this information are the people who have never seen a TAS or only seen one.
I think it would be more to the point to say the people who don't care that much about how fast ancient videogames can be played. Surely lots of people saw Morimoto's SMB3, thought "WTF was that crap?" and continued masturbating to Friends reruns. I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this thread.
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The answer is: n% of TAS watchers.
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I watch almost all the runs published, and most of them submitted so long as they aren't for the Sega Master System. But that's just me. More on topic: When most people watch a TAS, they don't really understand what it is. I know I didn't when I watched FODA's Mario 64 run and the Zombie's Ate My Neighbor's two player run.
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Surely lots of people saw Morimoto's SMB3, thought "WTF was that crap?" and continued masturbating to Friends reruns.
I guess I was the odd one out. I saw Morimoto's SMB3, found a link to Arc's Superplay website, watched cupstacking, and then masturbated to Friends reruns.
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Why Friends specifically?
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My guess is that 83% have seen exactly one. The amount of people who have seen a run on digg or something aweful or whatever vastly dwarfs the population of this site so I consider this community negligible for the percentage. Now the question becomes how many have seen several tas on these sites. Im going to guess that at most 4 runs have been posted in huge numbers. Now the question is how many have seen 2 of those 4 links as opposed to just 1. Now considering how lots of that crowd is casual i'll estimate that on the average they've seen 6% of links posted in the time-frame we are interested in. That leaves an 83% chance of having only seen one.
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Why Friends specifically?
For the purposes of humor. It made me smile more than, say, Teletubbies.
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I would say that the percentage is very small, and it is almost directly translatable to the amount of people who were linked to N64 speedruns via YouTube. I would also venture to say that these are people we don't want around these parts, since they're not inspired enough to check up on the goings-on behind runs, thereby associating to people who don't understand what tool assistance is. So, uhh, to answer your question more concisely: the number of people who have seen but one run is unknown, but it has definitely grown in the last 6 months by a humongous factor. This number n, as moozooh put it, is probably ~85% people who don't understand what tool assisted runs are, ~10% are people who have a grasp of the concept (yet don't care), and 5% are people who saw one, read up on it, and were turned back by the concept (FCVEs amirite guys?).
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I think a more interesting statistics group would be: a) % of all-time TAS-viewers who follow new pubications / workbench b) % that occasionally look for their favorite game movies c) % that watch when linked, but otherwise don't care d) % that don't understand the concept at all, but find it interesting e) % that don't understand the concept at all, and consider it cheating f) % that have seen them, but dislike and don't watch (groups can overlap.) The ambiguous "one and only one" restriction seems silly, since it basically confines people to group "f". (After all, most other people would just watch one and stop if they didn't like, others might watch more if they are interested.) Granted, it isn't like this particular set is any easier to understand, but even basic guesses would be interesting.
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Xkeeper: what about group g) % that have never watched a TAS
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Baxter wrote:
Xkeeper: what about group g) % that have never watched a TAS
That would be somewhere in the range of 99.99999999...99%.
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I would also venture to say that these are people we don't want around these parts, since they're not inspired enough to check up on the goings-on behind runs, thereby associating to people who don't understand what tool assistance is.
Actually, I disagree entirely. There are the people TASvideos should be most keen to get to these parts, so they can understand just what a TAS is. Sure you're going to get people who will just disregard anything you tell them and call it cheating regardless, but that's going on anyway, just not here. And here you can ban people.
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How many people download every single AVI published here even though they don't *watch* every single one? I can count myself as one. I download every single one, but there are a few I have not watched. (These are some RPGs which I don't want to spoil myself about, because I might want to play them some time and then watch the TAS.) (Why download something you are not going to watch? Why not wait until you are ready to watch it? To help seeding it. And it's faster to download when it's freshly published.)
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Xkeeper wrote:
Baxter wrote:
Xkeeper: what about group g) % that have never watched a TAS
That would be somewhere in the range of 99.99999999...99%.
Ever the pessimist, Novoter. In my classroom, not including the people I have shown TASes, about 25% have seen one.
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There are the people TASvideos should be most keen to get to these parts
Can you rephrase this? I don't quite understand what you're saying. Either way, I stand by my case. If someone sees a tool assisted run somewhere and isn't interested enough to start asking questions or watch another tool assisted work, then I submit that this person really wouldn't fit in around here. We aren't exactly the most complacent bunch, you know, and we have to show some base level of interest in the work being published here. The other two groups (uninterested and non-supportive) are obviously not needed, so I won't get in to that.
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Chamale wrote:
Xkeeper wrote:
Baxter wrote:
Xkeeper: what about group g) % that have never watched a TAS
That would be somewhere in the range of 99.99999999...99%.
Ever the pessimist, Novoter. In my classroom, not including the people I have shown TASes, about 25% have seen one.
Assuming that even one million people have watched a TAS, the current population is about 6.3billion. Doing the math, that comes out to about 99.985% that have never seen a TAS. (1m estimate by someone in IRC) It's called being realistic, not pessimism.
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If 25% of Canadian teens have seen a TAS, that makes 1 million in Canada alone.
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If 25% of Canadian teens have seen a TAS, that makes 1 million in Canada alone.
If 25% of China have seen a TAS, that makes 330 million in china alone.
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To be realistic, most people have better things to do (in real life).