Posted: 4/17/2008 9:14 PM
Post subject: Memory Hacking Software as an ad-hoc PC emulator?
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Dromiceius
Joined: 10/3/2005
Posts: 1332
I had recently figured out how to use MHS to cheat at PC games, and reinstalled FF7 with the intention of cheating extensively. The idea developed from hacking the starting conditions for a custom challenge run, into implementing some kind of savestate facility using the powerful scripting engine built into MHS. The idea never materialized into anything, but it came back to me recently, when Bisqwit posted a thread about using video recording as a method of pseudo-TAS recording on incomplete emulators. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? [EDIT by Bisqwit: Expanded the WDYM abbreviation in the thread title.]
Posted: 4/17/2008 9:20 PM
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moozooh
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More like "cheatulator" in this case, but it is indeed a good idea. Previously I've only thought of using SpeedGear (speed hack) + ArtMoney (memwatch + crude savestating) as an external cheat facility for PC games, but I believe MHS's reach can be made even farther.
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Posted: 4/17/2008 9:34 PM
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zefiris
Joined: 4/11/2006
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Just for those ignorant guys like me... What's MHS in a few words? )
Posted: 4/17/2008 9:43 PM
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Dromiceius
Joined: 10/3/2005
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Just for those ignorant guys like me... What's MHS in a few words? )
It's like the cheat finder in any emulator, except that it can read the memory of any program running in your system. It also has some programming functionality built in, meaning that it can be extended to other purposes, such as TASing (possibly) or world domination. Read, play, learn. :) Edit: I think I may have been premature in posting this thread, since I don't yet know exactly how to use the script feature. Lots of reading to be done...
Posted: 4/17/2008 10:09 PM
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mmbossman
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GBx TAS of 2008
MHS = Memory Hacking Software Super useful for emulators that don't have memory watch (Mupen, Dega), and for all others also.
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Posted: 4/18/2008 2:20 PM
Post subject: Re: Memory Hacking Software as an ad-hoc PC emulator?
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DeHackEd
Emulator Coder, Site Developer, Former player
Joined: 11/6/2004
Posts: 833
Dromiceius wrote:
Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
I think so Brain, but where are we going to find a willing blood donor at this hour of the evening? Sorry, couldn't resist. As for the whole emulation thing, I don't think it's all that feasible to script a bot using it. It just isn't happening.
Posted: 4/18/2008 3:39 PM
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Dromiceius
Joined: 10/3/2005
Posts: 1332
A bot? I may have been too vague in the OP. What I'm shooting for are (at a minimum) quicksave/quickload functions in games that aren't supposed to have them (like Diablo II) and to dump the resulting gameplay as video. Granted, I don't know how that will all work, but I have yet to learn of anything that MHS categorically cannot do. (Other than heat a pizza so hot that it even MHS itself can't eat it.) [/rimshot]