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FuzZerd wrote:
before OPENING THE MENU, not before teleporting. also the first frame after the text box disappears is a lag frame so you can't open the menu then. leave one non-lag frame after opening the chest before opening the menu
i did it, and it still doesn't work. what now, even by doing it as if it were on the Genesis console, it's not working
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1645441535/Phantasy%20Star%20IV%20%284%29%20%5B%21%5D.gmv so there I am, stuck. Would doing the strength tower influence the outcome in any way?
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In what way are you stuck? I don't have time to check the video right now, so please be a bit more specific. Cheers! Keep up the good job.
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i can't have leroof appear. I pick all the rings of the star, wait one or more frames before opening the menu screen and he doesn't appear. Even when I do it normally (not frame by frame), he doesn't show up
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Oh. Sorry. I don't have a solution to that.
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Only thing I can think of is there's a minimum level you have to be.
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I don't really know the event flags, but my guesses are either (a) actually equip the rings or (b) walk down the first stairs from the top floor of the two towers. I really enjoyed the run. It feels like I haven't watched a movie from input in ages. Things I noticed, which are pretty minor: At the start of the soldier temple island cave, it seems you step off the optimal path by one tile. Is there a reason for that? You might want to do the Rykros towers in the opposite order. The Mota-Ring you win from De-Vars will give Rika half damage from Sa-Lews' Flaeli, which might save a couple of heals. Plus it's a minor stat boost. Chaz actually missed with an attack command against De-Vars. It may not have made a difference but it looks really out-of-place.
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The Mota-Ring you win from De-Vars will give Rika half damage from Sa-Lews' Flaeli, which might save a couple of heals. Plus it's a minor stat boost.
that's what I did. If I finally find the solution, that's what will appear
At the start of the soldier temple island cave, it seems you step off the optimal path by one tile. Is there a reason for that
mmm... I would have to look. However, I don't think it will make a difference. the AI is so inconsistent
(a) actually equip the rings or (b) walk down the first stairs from the top floor of the two towers.
a doesn't work. let's see b)...
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Another thing, and it's iffy, is De-Vars' tower has the Guard-Rod which heals all humanoids for about 64 HP when used as an item. It could be really handy for PD (if it uses Megid repeatedly), but if you can manipulate it well the Guard-Rod wouldn't be necessary. In regular play, of course, it's useful to use the Guard-Rod in macros on a low-damage character so they can recover almost every attack as it happens. Then again, I'm not sure how well the team will do against Megid. I thought you would have Rune go two-shield much earlier. But I imagine you either have a plan or you'll be able to manipulate things effectively.
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try waiting an extra frame before opening the menu to teleport on the first tower as well. thats my best guess.
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Then again, I'm not sure how well the team will do against Megid. I thought you would have Rune go two-shield much earlier. But I imagine you either have a plan or you'll be able to manipulate things effectively.
shields only give physical defense. to withstand megid, I need mental power... and a lot of HP
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No, shields give magic defense as well. So does most armor in this game, but in small amounts. Silvshields give very low tech defense (4 points). Psy-Shield offers 11 points (effectively) and Lasrbarrir gives 12. In regular play I'd always recommend a Psy-Shield over a Silvshield. Check http://www.wrftpb.com/psiv for a data mine of this game if you want to see those numbers.
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mmm.... If I ever get out of Rykros, I will find out if I can withstand megid. If not, I will harvest equipment
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fresfeeling will deserve credits when I publish. I just had to go down one floor! let's now see how I withstand megid... ps : if 'tis the right run, I will rework rykros. I believe I can avoid healing in the courage tower
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I'm glad you could move on. Waiting anxiously for you to submit a finished run!
<adelikat> I've been quoted with worse
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Awesome to hear you solved the problem. Very much looking forward to the final product.
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/232057204/Phantasy%20Star%20IV%20%284%29%20%5B%21%5D.gmv this is (almost) it! comments? suggestions against PD? in case you wonder : with a silver shield and the guard robe, raja can survive. this way, he resurects rune, and in the following turn, everyone has revived. PD 3 casts megid only once; the rest of the time, he can simple attack wren
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janus wrote:
in case you wonder : with a silver shield and the guard robe, raja can survive. this way, he resurects rune, and in the following turn, everyone has revived. PD 3 casts megid only once; the rest of the time, he can simple attack wren
That's excellent. Yeah, PD3 always uses Megid once. Glad to hear the rest is able to be manipulated. I haven't watched this yet, but it'll be even better if PD uses Evil Eye on Wren instead. I'll probably have a look tonight.
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I watched it now, looks good at the end. I noticed today that when you're getting Kyra from the carnivorous plants you drive the ice digger directly into the forest. This causes two lines of dialog where Chaz says "we can't get through". If you get out of the ice digger the space before and walk into the trees you can skip this. I'm pretty sure it's faster to walk those two spaces and skip the two lines of dialog, but it's got to be less than a second. There are also two little single-tile changes from the optimal path on the first floor of the solider temple island, I think. They might have been for manipulation but you didn't seem to do this anywhere else. There's one right where you come in the door and one on the same floor just before the staircase. For what it's worth I think my favorite screenshots include characters at really low HP during boss fights. I think DF3 is the coolest-looking boss, so I like 267128 as a screenshot. Might be better to have the end of the Juza fight though because it looks like such a close shave.
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you didn't have to go down the last set of stairs to get to le roof (just wait a frame after opening the chest) and I'm guessing thats all you would have had to do at the top of the first tower as well.
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There are also two little single-tile changes from the optimal path on the first floor of the solider temple island
if you're talking at the very beginning, I think the path is optimal. I press left as soon as I entered. Might have another look.. doN,t worry fuzzerd, I will look at your suggestion ;). However, if I run out of recover (he has 18), I might go down the courage tower after the boss to get the guard armour.
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I noticed today that when you're getting Kyra from the carnivorous plants you drive the ice digger directly into the forest. This causes two lines of dialog where Chaz says "we can't get through". If you get out of the ice digger the space before and walk into the trees you can skip this. I'm pretty sure it's faster to walk those two spaces and skip the two lines of dialog, but it's got to be less than a second.
it aws indeed quicker, but the xe-la-thoul battle was simply horrible after that. i won't change it
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/28491634/Phantasy%20Star%20IV%20%284%29%20%5B%21%5D.gmv back to the entrance of The Edge. - I didn't correct the disembaking from the ice digger. The subsequent fight (ze-la-thoul) was worse - at the entrance of the soldier'S temple, i didn't miss anything. I press left as soon as I entered; i suppose the designers were drunk - I waited the fateful 1 frame before escaping the rykros towers, which was shorter.
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Looking good. :D
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letting raja survive is a one in a million shot. I think I have the solution : a repair-kit. I will backtrack to kuran to find one, and I will get Demi as a fifth party member. Her medical power can resurect humanoids.
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