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Hey guys, I am looking for a game that is similar two Gladius for XBOX but older. NES, SNES, DOS, Genesis type games. Turn based strategy games that are the "best of breed." The only game of this genre I have ever played has been Gladius, and I really REALLY loved it. I am hoping there is one even better out there somewhere. I have tried Ogre Battle but couldn't seem to get into it...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game This is a pretty extensive list. I'm obviously partial to the shining force series.
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from the Shining series: Shining Force (Genesis, remade for GBA) Shining Force II (Genesis) Shining Force III (Saturn) Shining Force Feather (DS) Shining Force Gaiden I-II (Game Gear, remade for Sega CD) Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict (Game Gear) You may also find the Fire Emblem series to your liking, along with the Final Fantasy Tactics offshoot to the Final Fantasy series and the Tactics Ogre offshoot to the Ogre Battle series.
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Rather more recently, there's the Nippon Ichi games (especially the Disgaea series) (edit: for the Playstation 2 and later consoles), though those games are in large part about number pornography ("Let's see how high I can get my attack stat!").
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Please make sure to list what systems everything is on. Yeah fire emblem... I should give those a shot since i like marth/roy so much in SSBM. What is the best Fire Emblem game that in English? Or at least has a good translation?
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Disgaea was ported to the DS and is available in English, I should mention. I've also heard the Luminous Arc series is a series of strategy RPGs for the DS; the first 2 have been released in English and the third may yet get an English release, because it was released in Japan half a year ago. Also, for the Shining games I mentioned... Feather has not yet been released in English, and I don't know whether it ever will be (it has been just over a year since its release in Japan, as the first strategy RPG in the Shining series in 12 years, and it didn't sell well even there) The first Gaiden game and Final Conflict have not been released in English either, although Gaiden I became Book I of Shining Force CD (Gaiden II became Book II, and there are 2 other shorter Books); meanwhile Gaiden II was released in English as Shining Force II: The Sword of Hajya. Only the first scenario of Shining Force III was ever released in English (there are 3 scenarios sold as separate discs and a bonus CD). There is a working translation for Final Conflict (although none for the first Gaiden that I know of), an active translation project for the rest of Shining Force III, and widespread clamoring for a translation of Feather although little publicly visible progress, possibly waiting for Atlus or Sega itself to finally make its own translation; I'm putting my hopes on a translation becoming available by late 2011, considering how long it took for the Mother 3 Fan Translation to be finished. As for Fire Emblem, the first 6 games and the Satellaview game were released only in Japan, but all of them have been translated, to varying degrees of success; I have linked to the translations where I could find them. 1 Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryū to Hikari no Tsurugi (NES 1990, "Shadow Dragons and the Blade of Light", re-made for DS in 2008 as "Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon", which was released in English) 2 Fire Emblem Gaiden (NES 1992) 3 Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo (SNES 1994, "Mystery of the Emblem", includes remake of first game as "Book One") 4 Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (SNES 1996, "Genealogy of the Holy War") BS Fire Emblem: Akaneia Senki (SNES Satellaview 1997, "War Chronicles of Akaneia") 5 Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (SNES 1999, final first-party title in any region, 2 years after America's final first-party SNES game, Kirby's Dream Land 3) The better translation patch was hosted on a site no longer available, so I have re-uploaded it: http://sharebee.com/8e422591 6 Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi (GBA 2002, "The Binding Blade") 7 Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (GBA 2003, "The Sword of Flame", released in English as simply "Fire Emblem") 8 Fire Emblem: Seima no Kōseki (GBA 2004, "Shining Stones of Holiness and Evil", released in English as "Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones") 9 Fire Emblem: Sōen no Kiseki (GC 2005, "Trail of the Blue Flame", released in English as "Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance") 10 Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Wii 2007, "The Goddess of Dawn", released in English as "Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn") Now for the Tactics Ogre sub-series... First there's the original, the third game in the Ogre Battle series (and seventh episode), Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (SNES 1995 and Saturn 1996 only in Japan, PSX in Japan 1997 and America 1998) Translation for the SNES version: http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=tactics Then there's Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis (GBA 2001) Finally, the Final Fantasy Tactics sub-series... Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX 1997) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (GBA 2003) Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (PSP 2007) Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift (DS 2007) While looking this stuff up I learned about yet another strategy RPG series that has never been released outside Japan: Black Matrix. Black/Matrix (Saturn 1998, DC 1999, PSX 2000) Black/Matrix II (PS2 2002) Black Matrix Zero (GBA 2002, re-released as "Black/Matrix 00" for PSX in 2004) This is the only translation of Black Matrix Zero I could find, and it only finished a few menus: http://www.romhacking.net/trans/603/
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I don't care what anybody else says, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure was a hoot (it's by Nippon Ichi). Note that you will have to get the PS1 version, as the DS version changed from tactical strategy to turn based.
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Sir VG wrote:
I don't care what anybody else says, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure was a hoot (it's by Nippon Ichi). Note that you will have to get the PS1 version, as the DS version changed from tactical strategy to turn based.
OMG WTF
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I own Disgaea, Disgaea 2 and FF Tactics for the PSP, and I like all three of them. I especially like the humor in the Disgaea games.
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arflech wrote:
Sir VG wrote:
I don't care what anybody else says, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure was a hoot (it's by Nippon Ichi). Note that you will have to get the PS1 version, as the DS version changed from tactical strategy to turn based.
OMG WTF
I said NO!
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Sir VG wrote:
arflech wrote:
Sir VG wrote:
I don't care what anybody else says, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure was a hoot (it's by Nippon Ichi). Note that you will have to get the PS1 version, as the DS version changed from tactical strategy to turn based.
OMG WTF
I said NO!
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Thank you for such an in-depth post. I started a fire emblem GBA game, and I need to try FF tactics on GBA also. Seems like there is a huge lack of SNES games of this genre... At least in the states.
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Bahamut Lagoon is an SNES turn-based strategy game. It's Japanese-only but there is a translation patch. There's also a few mech-based games whose names I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Derakon wrote:
Bahamut Lagoon is an SNES turn-based strategy game. It's Japanese-only but there is a translation patch. There's also a few mech-based games whose names I can't remember off the top of my head.
Front Mission?
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Oh, I forgot to mention the "Wars" series...I might do a mega-post about the titles and their translation patches, but basically it started off in 1990 as "Famicom Wars" with two nondescript opposing armies, and there were games made for the SNES and GameBoy, and then when Advance Wars was released in English, it took off and all subsequent "Wars" games have had international releases. In this series, all of the personality is in the "generals" for each side, while the units are all generic and don't have any sort of equipment and often are produced at some cost; this differs from the typical RPG because while the characters do usually have some sort of class, the player characters and helpful NPCs are not generic, have their own personalities, and do equip things to increase their power in some way.
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Pretty much, Disgaea is the only tactical series I play, because it's such a great fit for my own personality. It is my video game crack and I can play it all day or night without realizing it, a rare feat in games for me!
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Thanks for all the tips everyone. I will make sure to try out the ones that I have access too.
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