Posted: 9/24/2010 4:22 AM
Post subject: Naming convention for High Quality encodes.
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Flygon
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Just a quick question for TASVideos members out there, would you prefer that High Quality encodes have the _highquality convention that Earthbound Zero or follow the same convention as non-high quality encodes published so far, such as _1344 in the case of Sonic 3 and Knuckles newgame+. This'd be a poll, but publishers can't make them in the Sites forum. Also, yes, Grunt and I are arguing again. I'm personally siding with _highquality.
Posted: 9/24/2010 4:26 AM
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sgrunt
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I object to the name of this topic, first and foremost, as it presupposes that we've already adopted the term. Although this is true, in a sense, we've always, recently, referred to all of our encodes as "high quality" (ask, for example, Aktan). Suggesting that something else now constitutes "high quality" discourages our normal encoding efforts and suggests that there's something inherently low quality with our stock encoding process. We already have provisions for naming publications that have multiple resolutions - two of the three movies we've published recently have the vertical resolution of the encode appended to the file name. I view this as informative enough.
Posted: 9/24/2010 4:29 AM
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Flygon
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sgrunt wrote:
Suggesting that something else now constitutes "high quality" discourages our normal encoding efforts and suggests that there's something inherently low quality with our stock encoding process.
Considering the amount of time it takes to create a HQ encode, there isn't really any discouraging going on. People are still far more focused on making SD encodes, from what I've seen. Also, semi-related; Grunt and I have been working on rewriting the Encoding Quality page and... have hit a snag. We both have editions of the page, and sort of need the audience to decide which is more relevant, especially encoders. My edition Grunt's edition Personally, I far prefer a categorical system due to the fact that... it's categorical. Lacking categories could confuse people as to what's which.
Posted: 9/24/2010 4:38 AM
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sgrunt
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I fail to see the need to make a forum post for every particular nuance of this situation. I further fail to see the need for a large hierarchy of different encoding types for the apparent primary purpose of referring to one's own preferred method as "highest quality" without, at the very least, extremely good feedback (from a technical standpoint or a viewer standpoint) to back up that assertion.
Posted: 9/24/2010 11:43 AM
Post subject: Re: Naming convention for High Quality encodes.
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Dada
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Flygon wrote:
Also, yes, Grunt and I are arguing again. I'm personally siding with _highquality.
Having a suffix is a good idea, but personally I'd use _hd or _1080p since _highquality (or _hq as I would prefer) is also used to refer to higher bitrate encodes. So _hq doesn't necessarily mean higher resolution.
Posted: 9/24/2010 2:15 PM
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Derakon
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I'd go with _1080p, reason being that it's descriptive of the actual resolution of the movie. I've always hated having to decipher WXVGA and all that crap.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 6:20 AM
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Warp
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It would be nice if we had a consistent naming convention for files first (as has been suggested several times in the past), before adding even more stuff to the current unofficial loose naming convention. Btw, isn't "SD" a misnomer for the "normal-resolution" videos? The acronym comes from "standard-definition television", where it signifies a vertical resolution of 480-576 scanlines (iow. pixels in digital media), while most of the normal videos are encoded with a vertical resolution of 224 pixels or such (going as low as 144 pixels with handheld games).
Posted: 9/30/2010 1:09 AM
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Flygon
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I've ended up thinking about it for a while, and decided to go for the _288, _480, ect suffix's for the sake of universal consistency. I had considered suggesting a _scaled suffix, but ended up determining that it would have been too confusing. This topic was made due to irrational behavior on my part, I apologize to any parties that were pissed off due to my behavior. Also, Grunt's page is a better idea. I admit I am a stubborn bastard.