Post subject: tool assisted droid app (or iphone)
Joined: 10/14/2010
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Ok, to be quick and simple, why the hell aren't there tas apps in the droid marketplace (or itunes)? Even just an app to make browsing the forum on my droid x easier would be nice.........but who wouldn't love to be able to make tas's on the go. The emulators are already there we just need the frame advance and re recording abilities. Does anyone know if there are any projects in the works for these things?
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No, there is no interest for making Iphone or droid apps for TASing, here are a number of issues:
IRC wrote:
(21:04:44) Brushy: TASing on a smartphone? (21:04:50) Brushy: Sure... (21:05:45) Brushy: I mean, the screens are small and most of them don't have enough keys to do frame advance + A + down + right at the same time. (21:07:14) andymac: auto hold? (21:07:53) Brushy: Not too comfy IMO. (21:08:14) ais523: you could do it JPC-RR-style, where you press a key to turn it on or off (21:10:00) andymac: A lot of actual emulators have little or no interest to keep them updated (21:10:15) andymac: I don't think there's much interest to make an Iphone app for it. (21:10:58) Ilari: And besides, I don't think iphone app store allows emulators (and only way to run apps not in there is to jailbreak the phone). (21:11:08) andymac: yeah, too many loops (21:11:14) andymac: too many difficulties (21:11:19) andymac: not worth it at all (21:12:00) Brushy: I agree. (21:12:51) andymac: plus, I bet you the emulators on the Iphone are innacurate as hell (21:14:03) Ilari: And also, to really TAS with them, one would have to have the emulator be sync-compatible with some GPC emulator... (21:17:00) Ilari: Not to mention that smartphones don't have a lot of processing power, one would be limited to relatively "primitive" emulators (something like up to 16-bit generation)...
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andymac wrote:
No, there is no interest for making Iphone or droid apps for TASing, here are a number of issues:
IRC wrote:
(21:04:44) Brushy: TASing on a smartphone? (21:04:50) Brushy: Sure... (21:05:45) Brushy: I mean, the screens are small and most of them don't have enough keys to do frame advance + A + down + right at the same time. (21:07:14) andymac: auto hold? (21:07:53) Brushy: Not too comfy IMO. (21:08:14) ais523: you could do it JPC-RR-style, where you press a key to turn it on or off (21:10:00) andymac: A lot of actual emulators have little or no interest to keep them updated (21:10:15) andymac: I don't think there's much interest to make an Iphone app for it. (21:10:58) Ilari: And besides, I don't think iphone app store allows emulators (and only way to run apps not in there is to jailbreak the phone). (21:11:08) andymac: yeah, too many loops (21:11:14) andymac: too many difficulties (21:11:19) andymac: not worth it at all (21:12:00) Brushy: I agree. (21:12:51) andymac: plus, I bet you the emulators on the Iphone are innacurate as hell (21:14:03) Ilari: And also, to really TAS with them, one would have to have the emulator be sync-compatible with some GPC emulator... (21:17:00) Ilari: Not to mention that smartphones don't have a lot of processing power, one would be limited to relatively "primitive" emulators (something like up to 16-bit generation)...
[/ quote]Oj Yeah I can understand comfort and actual playability but there's wii mote and classic controller support now on all the emulators in the droid market place. So I thought the added keys would make the frame advance thing a tad more possible and comfortable. But anyway how about tasvideos forum app or widget or something you can't tell me that wouldn't be handy;)
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If an emulator is written in C or C++, especially if it's designed to be highly portable (iow. it's not littered with eg. Windows-only code) it wouldn't be unthinkable to try to port it for the iPhone. The only issue would be to design an appropriate UI and to integrate the emulator there. (There are many C programs and libraries which have been successfully ported to the iPhone, eg. nethack and the chipmunk library.)
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Yeah, I didn't really like the iphone emulators anyway they weren't quite right for some reason....droid though I've got no complaints:) anyway who do I need to talk to around here to see about getting a tasvideos app? Maybe we can brainstorm what the app should be. Im not talking the tas emulators anymore. Im thinking more website related, like at least making the forum droid native.
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The forum admins, particularly Nach, would be the people to talk to about making the forum more smartphone-friendly. It's entirely possible that there's a phpBB module for mobile phones that could be enabled, which would at least be a good start.
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A good idea would be to make an iPhone/Android/Blackberry app to browse trough all of the published movies, to watch them and to vote on them on the go, but a big deal would be the encodes. I don't think they are compatible with an iPhone.
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Maybe an app similar to the TASVideos XBMC addon (here)
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Anavrin wrote:
Maybe an app similar to the TASVideos XBMC addon (here)
Yeah I like it lol. Im sure if we get enough thought in this we can make anything happen. I would personally like to setup a way to be notified when specified threads have been commented on or even when I have received a messages, this way its easy to keep up with everything that's going on. Face everyday something new is found and recorded on this site.....and that's just awesome
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Another quick thought for the app. Maybe, we can figure out a way to save and play the videos on our phone the same way we download and watch the videos on our emulators on our computers. This way we can view key presses and do frame by frame analysis on the go.
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I don't think so, the emulator on iDevices aren't (afaik) as accurate than the ones on PC, so movies would probably desync. I guess, only downloading the encodes would be good enough.