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You're a freak.
you have no idea :P question : is it possible to manipulate the outcome of a fishing pond? I want to fish 2 trouts near the farm in McNeil, but only one seems to appear at the time. The rainbow trout wasn't such a problem
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Any chance of getting a youtube upload?
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I remember the first time I played this game. I used the Kaizer Dragon, and ended up killing my entire party. xD
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1312805948/movie.pxm just out of the McNeil manor. NOT killing teepo and rei was 1k frames shorter :( a few things that will change in the future - no need for the melted blade - I will probably not need that many molotovs - I guess Teepo and Rei could die more - I need to master fishing more other suggestions?
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I guess I'll have to see if I can get this emulator working since no encodes have been made other than the original one. I usually use ePSXe because my compy is really old and doesn't support things like openGL or SSE2 so I generally stick with emulators I know are stable on this dinosaur. I haven't seen the video yet but for the fishing game it might be easiest to TEC4 the fish all the way until it is right in front of Ryu and then hook it for an instant catch. I'll try to get the TAS emu working now and then post later. EDIT: Well I've got the emulator running but the file desynchronized in the first fight (possibly during the text before the fight) and I can't help but wonder if it's because my image file was a rip I made myself. The file is an .img file and I think I heard somewhere that you need to use a bin and cue file... which I can't rip my CD into. I'll keep trying but would appreciate some tips. I'm fairly positive I have the emu configured correctly (not my first time trying to set up an emulator for movie playback) so it's either the ISO or the fact that my PC really sucks (that's my bet).
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Thinkies: -By my count, the fishing section takes currently takes about 3 1/2 minutes. I really have to wonder if McNeil manor would be that much slower without it. -The Molotovs and Flare add very little in the Pooch fight. It should be faster to just manipulate crit + reprisals off Rei. -Killing off Rei and Teepo will only make a difference if it lets Ryu end a fight one turn earlier later on. Having Teepo die on the first turn of the Amalgam battle would actually save time though, and his lost damage is easily made up for by Rei getting a slightly stronger crit like he does on the final turn. EDIT:
Mastania wrote:
No, you just have to choose to fight Teepo in Eden.
My bad; it's Myria who gives you the choice at the end.
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Wren wrote:
EDIT: Well I've got the emulator running but the file desynchronized in the first fight (possibly during the text before the fight) and I can't help but wonder if it's because my image file was a rip I made myself. The file is an .img file and I think I heard somewhere that you need to use a bin and cue file... which I can't rip my CD into.
Hm, I was always under the impression that if you owned the game you could just pop it in your CD drive and watch the movie that way. I've TASed a tiny bit of Brave Fencer Musashi using my own disc, but I've never tried watching a movie recorded from a .bin .cue file using my own disc (I do own BOFIII as well but I'm currently feeling too lazy to get the correct plugins, which I'm missing for some reason). Come to think of it, if it doesn't work, it's actually kind of sad that a ripped file works over the physical copy of the disc. Does it have to do with loading times?
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As far as i can tell, the next version doesnt have cd support, maybe old plugins work, i didnt bothered testing that and the option is "closed" right now (to be more clear, you can only use iso on latest revisions). Making an iso takes 5min btw and theres tonnes of software around the net that will do the job automaticly for you. Edit: AFAIK, pcejin doesnt support cd drive as well, so theres nothing fancy here
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My computer has so many problems it's kind of astonishing it still works. It has slowly died piece by piece over its 13 year life... which is a shame because I've done quite a lot to prolong it's life and in the entire time I've owned it only got one virus (which I got when hooking it up to the net for the first time in 4 years). BoF3 was the very first game I owned that I ripped... and as such I didn't really know what format was best so I just picked one. Now I can't simply just re-rip the damn thing from one of the most recent failures... none of my cd or dvd drives work any longer, aside from my virtual drive and needless to say that can't rip a cd. :P I'm so happy that in like 2 weeks time I'll have a new compy... or at least that's the plan. I will say this though, a $3000 computer can last a long ass time if you don't care about pc gaming. ^_^ Never did get the TAS to synch either... the weird part is the plugins seem pretty much like the ones I use but the emulator speed doesn't reach even 40 frames on average... and on ePSXe I can rock a steady 60 at all times, and over speed the game to 350 frames. *shrugs* My new compy will have a processor over twice as powerful as this one and a graphics processor at least 5 times as powerful... and over 10 times as much RAM.
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Running the game direct on the CD might be dangerous for your CD, since pcsxrr isn't 100% stable. If you try do download it, here the MD5 checksums: 226771993e29ca5c8e6e2c094c40e8d2 breath of fire 3.img Or you can see this page and make sure that everything is the same. next part : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJaJKniymkQ
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By my count, the fishing section takes currently takes about 3 1/2 minutes. I really have to wonder if McNeil manor would be that much slower without it
I have my doubts. The ghosts are very strong against anything else. I will test it on the rerun http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/869251890/movie.pxm almost out of the wyndia catacombs. Can I skip hitting all the switches and only press the ones on the big tombstone?
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EDIT: Nevermind.
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arukAdo wrote:
As far as i can tell, the next version doesnt have cd support
It doesnt, and if it does, then it shouldnt, and if I find out about it, it won't.
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janus wrote:
Can I skip hitting all the switches and only press the ones on the big tombstone?
Yes you can. Getting Bunyan was also quicker than I remember, so he's probably worth it after all. You may want to get Meryleep as soon as she's available though, otherwise there might be some difficulties with getting EX-turns on Gaist. Notes for the upcoming areas: -There are a couple of Ginsengs/Vodka Shots available in the upcoming areas, which are the only way of boosting attack before Momo learns Might, and even then there are some fights later on where she isn't available/feasible. One is behind Wyndia (reached on the overworld map, a bit out of the way), and the other is in the building behind Palet when you meet him at the dump. Momo's Tower has a heap of potentially useful stuff in it: -Completing the puzzle to get the Flame and Ice Chrysm will probably be worth it. The Flame Chrysm gives Momo the best damage output against the Mutant and can be used later to power the lighthouse (she shouldn't need it for Gazer), while the Ice Chrysm lets her do good damage to the Dodai and Charybdis & Scylla. -The HyperBots in Momo's Tower teach Blitz, which I think will be a great skill for her to learn (provided you can get a lone HyperBot encounter), letting her do good multi-target damage in the Emitai and Gisshan fights, while hits on her can be manipulated to miss. Additionally, they have a 1/64 to drop another Ginseng! -The Orcs there also teach Last Resort, and it could greatly improve Ryu's damage output much later on in the Elder fight, especially with a half-decent set of armour. You can't get them to appear with HyperBots though. They have a 1/128 chance of dropping a Titan Belt, which could actually make up for not-getting the Ivory Dice (mentioned below). -Beating the Dodai gives Ryu a serious boost in power, which should easily make up for the extra fighting time over the first part of the game. Beating it flat will move Ryu from Lv8 to Lv14, but getting the Ivory Dice from Momo's Tower will get him to Lv17 (Nina has to power up the crystal 6 times, but there are no encounters in that room). However, even with the Claymore (which he really should have), Momo's damage output (w/Ice Chrysm) will save a lot of turns over Ryu's, and Claw has some very useful skills for her to learn. I think the best way to beat the Dodai will be like this: - First two turns, Claw is manipulated to use Blind and Double Blow for Momo to learn. Blind is extremely useful in the Gazer fight; it doubles his exp and prevents him from using Eye Beam. Double Blow will allow Momo to beat the Dodai much more quickly, because she can't get criticals and Blitz automatically hits multiple targets (and might be weaker against single targets anyway, I dunno). She may not survive Double Blow, so you may need to force a miss. - Third turn, Momo uses a Ginseng on herself, to boost her Pwr from 80 to 100 (it gives a 26% increase). This will give her 40% extra damage per Double Blow hit, and save about four turns on average. - From there she attacks the Dodai, doing close to 200 damage per turn, until it's weak enough for Ryu to beat in one hit. Then she offs herself, and lets Ryu finish it (if you want to use the Ivory Dice he will have to use it first turn). This ends up being much faster than having Ryu fight it himself, and the skills will be of no use to him. This is based on the strat David uses in his current speedrun, enhanced by Double Blow, the Ginseng, and obviously no misses :D -You might want to transfer Garr's Titan Belt to Ryu in the Stallion fight rather than have to bring the menu up later. Stallion also has a 1/64 chance of dropping a Holy Mantle, which decreases the wild encounter rate and could prove extremely useful! I think that'll do for now.
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Double Peist I was looking over the stats for the dragon transformations, and the strongest single-transformation before getting the Force gene is actually the Wildfire (formed with Miracle + Thorn + Reverse). If someone can't remember, that's the golden Whelp form with greatly boosted Def but 10% HP. It gives the same Pwr boost at the Kaiser, but its biggest downside is actually the fact that it costs 27 AP, and Bunyan murders Ryu's AP pool. It's also very fast, so EX-turns are viable, but to stay in the form for more than one round Ryu will need 42 AP (or a Wisdom Seed/Fruit). Assuming he stays under Bunyan, he'll have exactly that at Lv19, or at Lv18 with two Magic Shards. The form becomes available after getting the Miracle gene, which is in Mt Zublo before the Gisshan fight. Aside from the potential it has to actually be faster, I think it'd be a great addition to the TAS to see something with 12 HP wrecking bosses. It also gets Charge, which can do incredible damage at high Def values and would be really fun to see used once or twice. Then if Janus also gets the ??? gene, he'll be able to use the Mammoth form and its immensely powerful MeteorStrike, which will be useful against Manmo and the forced boss re-fights in Myria Station.
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1182215228/movie.pxm just out of momo's tower. Is it just me or this game is uneventful? edit : this is my last wip before the holidays. Back around january 3 or 4
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Wren: I just ripped a .bin and .cue file from my disc and payed the movie file; I got the same desync. It's possible that we have a different version of the game than the one janus is using to TAS. Otherwise, I have no idea what's wrong.
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I am familiar with two different versions of the game, one with Ginseng and the other where it's still translated as Vodka Shot.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/440868410/movie.pxm about to get my butt whupped by Garr. The elemental chrysm are really ueful, and so is the double blow. Thanks to Mastania, Ryu is now up to level 17. Let's see if the Claymore was so useful...
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Glad to be of help :D I thought it was possible to get a discount on the Claymore so that you could get it before the contest, but I forgot that discount was for the one shop only. There are a couple more places where you could get the extra cash, but they're all out of the way. You may want to test Flame + Defender in the Emitai fight though; it boosts his Pwr slightly more, and if you can do over 300 damage in one hit you can break his control over the Golems instantly.
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i know, I will test the flame+thorn on the rerun - it might save me a few frames. And if the claymore was a vital part of the run, I can always backup
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http://rapidshare.com/files/441139414/movie.pxm on my way ot help Beyd. The claymore is vital, after all. And if emitai's dropping is automatic, then I won,t need to harvest more treasures
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I'd recommend using mediafire over rapidshare, since it doesn't have pesky download limits and times etc. That and I seemingly can't even download that file because the link does nothing but lead me to an 'upload file' page.
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Atma wrote:
That and I seemingly can't even download that file because the link does nothing but lead me to an 'upload file' page.
You can, just scroll down and the download links should be there ("Slow Download" requires a little wait time first). Anyway, from what I've seen (up through McNeil Manor), the run is looking good so far, Janus!
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Well, I have a new computer (technically it's 5 years old) that should be much better suited to playing this... I opted for downloading a copy of BoF3 instead of ripping mine in the hopes that that also had something to do with it. I'll edit once I've watched this or been defeated by it.
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