Post by henke37

Posted: 1/5/2011 4:51 AM

Post subject: How to make speedrun videos more well known?

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Speed_Man

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I have some on YouTube but not well known. Hardly any views.

Posted: 1/5/2011 6:51 AM

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Patashu

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Get mentioned on a site that has a large audience itself.

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Posted: 1/5/2011 8:14 AM

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Sir_VG

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Submit good runs to Speed Demos Archive.

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Posted: 1/5/2011 9:09 AM

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Speed_Man

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Sir VG wrote:

Submit good runs to Speed Demos Archive.

Doesn't SDA only accept original console runs and only if all in one part? I also do not like the elitism imposed there.

Posted: 1/5/2011 10:07 AM

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Patashu

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SDA accepts segmented runs too. Also, what do you mean by 'elitism imposed'?

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Posted: 1/5/2011 12:28 PM

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Speed_Man

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Patashu wrote:

SDA accepts segmented runs too. Also, what do you mean by 'elitism imposed'?

"You did that shot too fast. You must be a TASer, I can't do it like that on a console, so NO ONE could" I get this every time I showed a speedrun of mine to them, but from different people. Usually Tiki[insert random numbers for cool factor] says stuff like that but I have seen others do so. If you are quicker than their more respected members and you're new, you're a faker. I also do not approve of how they butcher video quality. It should be plainly visible and not so artifacted and blurry.

Posted: 1/5/2011 12:42 PM

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The main problem with SDA is that they can't prevent cheats as they claim they can. This is truly the root of the problems.

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Posted: 1/5/2011 6:26 PM

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FODA wrote:

The main problem with SDA is that they can't prevent cheats as they claim they can. This is truly the root of the problems.

Well, if they call every run a fake, that prevents cheats, which is what they do. Any run better than the artifacted blurs they have is a fake. I mean, how do these people become well known? Eventually groups of people just... find the videos?

Posted: 1/5/2011 7:11 PM

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You guys mean they can reject a true run for silly suspicions?

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Posted: 1/5/2011 7:42 PM

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ktwo

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Speed Man wrote:

"You did that shot too fast. You must be a TASer, I can't do it like that on a console, so NO ONE could" I get this every time I showed a speedrun of mine to them, but from different people. Usually Tiki[insert random numbers for cool factor] says stuff like that but I have seen others do so. If you are quicker than their more respected members and you're new, you're a faker.

Strange, that's not how I see that most newcomers are received. Do you have the link to any of the threads where you were badly treated (or what's your handle on sda, then I can just find them myself) ? What games have you speedran ? And what's your youtube channel ?

Speed Man wrote:

I also do not approve of how they butcher video quality. It should be plainly visible and not so artifacted and blurry.

You mean "butcher" as in encoding the videos ? How would you otherwise do it ? You can hardly put the raw files up...

Posted: 1/5/2011 7:46 PM

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I haven't been to SDA in a while, but I remember one of the issues with newer recording technology was that it could introduce a delay in the video output, so you wouldn't be able to react to things until half a second after they happened.

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Posted: 1/5/2011 8:33 PM

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"You mean "butcher" as in encoding the videos ? How would you otherwise do it ? You can hardly put the raw files up..." There's a difference between encoding and not. XviD does not ruin any form of video quality and has very small size. What they use is just terrible.

Posted: 1/5/2011 11:41 PM

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henke37 wrote:

Xvid is a lossy encoding IIRC.

Seven minutes from a GameBoy game was only 43MB. Which is not bad at all considering the quality was amazing. Video quality goes over file-size shrinkage always.

Posted: 1/5/2011 11:42 PM

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Speed Man, aren't they use mostly x264? http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Batch_Encoding Though, interlaced video from simple consoles hardly can give you the picture, comparable to emulator's one. >Seven minutes from a GameBoy game was only 43MB ONLY?! O_o

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Posted: 1/6/2011 12:06 AM

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x264/H264? Ah yes, I've used that one before. It's great when you want gray spots (artifacts) on everything and blurs everywhere. Pretty cool. The size ends up evening out, I've had a 30 minute video only be like 150 MB.

Posted: 1/6/2011 12:18 AM

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This discussion is uneducated and based on fallacious premises. I'll give you an opportunity to redeem it with your next post here, Speed Man, otherwise it'll be locked for good. The original question has been answered quite well already, anyway.

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Posted: 1/6/2011 5:52 AM

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I'M SILLY BUT I THINK YOU COULD START BY MAKING A SPEEDRUN

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Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 1/6/2011 6:17 AM

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I just went to the bathroom in like 12 seconds, from start to finish, with wiping and everything. Is that a record?

Posted: 1/6/2011 6:23 AM

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erokky

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You should verify that with Guinness World Records. They'll gladly accept it if it defeats the current record.

Posted: 1/6/2011 6:24 AM

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I think you need a witness.

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Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 1/6/2011 6:40 AM

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Link to video

Posted: 1/6/2011 10:08 AM

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Link to video

"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate

Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 1/6/2011 10:29 AM

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I doubt about any records in ceiling zipping.

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Posted: 1/6/2011 5:19 PM

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ktwo

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Speed Man, it's cool that you only replied to the one question (out of four) that I was the least interested in... So, I'm starting to get curious here. You ask how get your more viewers to your youtube channel and still you're surprisingly reluctant to reveal how to find it. So you wanna show us what you got or not ? :-)