Joined: 4/25/2004
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Location: The Netherlands
hey bisqwit did i understand correctly that you're hosting this whole website on your own computer?
if so you can just disregard the next part :p
how about a section on the page with facts and tips and stuff about speedruns for several games?
like with zelda, whats better, whats not. complete maps and routes, items, moves, usable glitches, etc.
this for several games, info taken off what passes by on the forums or whats sent to you by mail or w/e...
its just a thought
actually, both yes and no. because if you could get some webserver shit then it would be a yes, if your upload will make the page slow because of that.. then no =)
i dun care about it since i have never been rooted myself (that was a lie) and i like bots with rooted 1gb so i can get my stuff fast when downloading. feel sorry for the company that will have to pay the bw :|
dun take me seriously man =)
In cracked company boxes, the only cost is not the bandwidth.
Cost of loss of information, cost of work time for those who clean the cracker's doings and to recover data / reinstall systems and for all people to change their passwords and to verify their files is very lot. It's an afwully lot of wasted money/resources.
Also many servers contain personal/classified information such as customer databases etc. Breaching to a system that contains such information is considered an information theft (you can not know whether the data was used or not) and carries heavy penalties in many countries.
true true. and what would the police say if they just got the contents of a rooted comp :x like a copy of w2k3.. that would cost them a bunch. :|
but. i can't say anything as i myself has been downloading of dem irc bots :(
I sighed because there's nothing I can do.
That you don't crack people's servers yourself,
does not justify that you still use cracked servers.
Compare: Is it ok to buy stolen cars, if you are
not a car thief yourself?
if i buy it without knowing it was stolen then, because back in the old days i didn't know :x so.. is it wrong then?
if you buy a stolen car without knowing about it, and later are informed about it, you are legally obligated to return the car to the rightful owner. if you don't return the car, it can be considered "posession of stolen property", which can land you in jail. if you sold the car to someone else, then you could be in serious trouble.
if you buy a stolen car without knowing about it, and are never informed about it, you're still committing an illegal act, but no one will prosecute you for it, because no one bothered to inform you about your crime.. heck, even you wouldn't know you committed a crime.. that doesn't change the fact that it was a crime.
But back on (political) topic:
Let's assume the following:
There exists a server with an owner that is somehow insecure. The server has one (or more) user accounts which define who has access to the server. It might be root, it might be administrator, it might be bob and his kids.
Somewhere along the line the computer is broken into (either by a cracker, or by a stupid user clicking on a virus, or a malicious activex script that supercedes security settings, or someone deceiving the administrator into adding an account for him).
Whoever caused the initial break-in is guilty of unauthorized access; if they were already in the system, they've expanded their rights beyond what the system administrator intended. If they weren't in the system, then their account wasn't intended to be made, and thus is illegal.
A day later, a scriptkiddie comes along, portscans the machine and realizes there's a backdoor installed. He logs into the cracked machine.
Regardless of what the scriptkiddie does, by connecting to the cracked machine, he is committing unauthorized access, because he wasn't using an account that he owned; he was using an account that was illegally created/expanded.
The owner of the system doesn't even need to patch his system; a crack is a crack, and illegal usage is illegal usage regardless of how up-to-date their patches are. It would be difficult (if not impossible) to argue that an unpatched system was inviting _everyone_ to legally use the system.. about as difficult as a knife murderer arguing that the victim ran into his knife 30+ times.
(Legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I pretend to be one on slashdot.)
There are, of course, some issues about the responsability of the system administrator... but that doesn't make the cracker/scriptkiddie's access any more legal.
seriously speaking... na nothing. you are right, but i still say i don't know whether it's a root or just someone using iroffer or any other "bot-software" (though the software i download might be illegal)
