To get it to work it should be a very arbitrary goal such as "high score, no deaths, no special stages".
I therefore think "high score" would be a bad idea.
I don't mind people choosing seemingly arbitrary goals when the resulting runs are as good as this one.
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I made the collection of all the rings in Aquatic Ruin Zone, except in the zone 2 ending in the battle against Robotick and not collects the 2 missing rings underwater. Also, I almost drowned under water trying to get out. Uff! Sonic nearly drowned and died :o
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You know it's possible to get one of those two rings right?
Also, I think you should use sonic + tails possibly taking control of tails, so that you can get more rings and perfect bonuses. Can you get the last ring inside the pillar by controlling tails?
Also you shouldn't make a hack to move rings into accessible locations, if you do what are you demonstrating? that you can make a hack that moves rings in such a way that you can get a perfect bonus on every level?
If you decide to do a max score run instead I think you should use sonic 2 and knuckles since the score attacks as knuckles involve crazy, long combo chains, and are really fun to TAS.
Also zeupar, stop trying to get me to actually do work! :P
You suggest that I use the ROM of Sonic 2 & Knuckles.
May be a good idea to use Knuckles because he can climb walls easily, but has a reduced ability to jump. The movie that I present to you, is only of test. Obviously, I do not dare to submit a TAS with Sonic Alone.
However, I believe that the ring can be taken with Tails, but in other areas (such as Mystic Cave) there are rings that are virtually unattainable. A final option would only play in areas where the perfect bonus is possible. With the help of Level Select.
For you know, I do not seek an Attack Score, I seek the perfect bonus by collecting all the rings as quickly as possible.
It was not easy for me, but to achieve this objective, without hacking the game, I need to use glitches to even take the rings unattainable in several areas. That is my only goal. The score does not matter, it is clear that this gives much scoring because; PERFECTBONUS -> 50000 points. RINGS -> around 20000 (100 points per ring).
I think I shall endeavor to find ways to touch these rings before continuing testing routes.
I don't have much to say except I fully support your aims and goals Felipe.
I also have to say that your English has definitely improved from what it was a few months ago. Granted, you maybe using a translator, and it's still not fluent, but nonetheless your posts are becoming more comprehensible. Good job and keep trying!
Exact! I use google translator but sometimes i must correct some word. This year my notes in English was excellent and yes, i have improved my English. Thank!
And with respect to my object, i am in query, i dont know what do. I want get a PERFECTBONUS! in all levels, but this is impossible if i dont hacking the game. I dont know what do. I dont know if a hacking was done before.
I'd say if the ring is possible to get at all, like tails flying back into the action, then it should be gotten, and otherwise ignored. The submission text accompanying the TAS can just say "Every attempt was made to collect each ring in all levels, but levels X, Y, and Z have unreachable rings. Consequently, those are the only levels with no perfect bonus at the end" and no one will blame you.
Tails can't collect rings when he respawns. And you can't get him to fly by normal means in Sonic 2.
THAT might be an idea for a hack keep the rings where they are, but give Tails flying abilities so he can collect rings while objects aren't drew because they're off-camera.
Anyone know how can see to Sonic in a screen and to Tails in another, but under the same game? Just like in versus mode is just to be able to effectively control Tails while he is outside the screen. Exist a way?
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Felipe wrote:
Anyone know how can see to Sonic in a screen and to Tails in another, but under the same game? Just like in versus mode is just to be able to effectively control Tails while he is outside the screen. Exist a way?
Sometimes hacking the camera this way can cause desyncs. It might be easier if you can get used to watching memory addresses. For example, if you know the X and Y coordinates of the ring that you wish to collect, you can watch Tails' X and Y positions and try to get them to match up. Cumbersome, but no extra chance of a desync.
If you decide to do a max score run instead I think you should use sonic 2 and knuckles since the score attacks as knuckles involve crazy, long combo chains, and are really fun to TAS.
AzumaK wrote: I swear my 1 year old daughter's favorite TASVideo is your R4MI run :3
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If you decide to do a max score run instead I think you should use sonic 2 and knuckles since the score attacks as knuckles involve crazy, long combo chains, and are really fun to TAS.
Ugh... I really want to see a Knux score attack... but I really want to see it in S3+K.
you know how crazy a knux score attack TAS of s3k would be?
this crazy: http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2586.msg52622#msg52622
(note: you need an account on soniccenter.org to download the attachment.)
PS: for planing purposes, this is probably one of the easier levels to do as well.
Well. This is what I have prepared so far. Collect all the rings of Emerald Hill with the help of Tails (though not used much). Mostly, I worry about collecting all the rings without taking any box of 10 rings. The battle against Robotnik is as simple as hitting 8 times in the traditional way.
Here is for you see my progress
That was really fun to watch! It was obvious that tails helped save quite a lot of time. A few comments/questions:
1. It seems like you go out of your way to NOT break the ring TVs. Is this intentional, or would breaking them not have saved any time?
2. Is it necessary to hit every checkpoint for the Perfect Bonus? According to TSC, only individual rings are necessary.
3. Since "collecting all in-level individual rings as quickly as possible" seems to be what this TAS's goals boil down to, don't forget you can take damage to save time, unless you are also aiming for a No Damage run too.
I found a ring in Aquatic Ruin 2 that is impossible to take.
Maybe can take it with Talis, he can stay a little out of the game screen and take the ring. Although the place is a little up and is under water, so that the movement is quite slow.
Are those not the type of pillars that drop entirely?
That was really fun to watch! It was obvious that tails helped save quite a lot of time. A few comments/questions:
1. It seems like you go out of your way to NOT break the ring TVs. Is this intentional, or would breaking them not have saved any time?
2. Is it necessary to hit every checkpoint for the Perfect Bonus? According to TSC, only individual rings are necessary.
3. Since "collecting all in-level individual rings as quickly as possible" seems to be what this TAS's goals boil down to, don't forget you can take damage to save time, unless you are also aiming for a No Damage run too.
1. As I said before, I did not break any box of 10 rings for mine intentions. These are not necessary for the perfect bonus.
2. No need to touch the checkpoint as you plan the route in the film touched them. Although the latest checkpoint in Emerald Hill 2, could be avoided.
3. I know that can take damage to save time. I did not want to be hurt ever to show the total number of rings that are in the area. But then I realized in the battle against Robotnik in the metropolis, "must to take damage to defeat it quickly and would lose all the rings". However, it would not be bad idea to avoid all possible damage, only take the damage when necessary.
I've made some progress in Chemical Plant and with respect to the movie, go a little faster, but I try to look for an improvement, I do not like having to return a lot for collect 4 rings. I'll see if I can do something with Tails.
Uff!! Finally I could finish Chemical Plant Zone 1. I got a time of 1min: 49sec. (2:01 -> 1:49) 12 sec improvement over the previous time. Special thanks to Tails that helps a lot with those 12 sec.
Maybe can take it with Talis, he can stay a little out of the game screen and take the ring. Although the place is a little up and is under water, so that the movement is quite slow.
