Post by RakuRocRex

Posted: 1/15/2012 1:42 AM

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Bobo_the_King

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RakuRocRex wrote:

Fine, then. I'm ready to TAS now because I'm Raku. Thanks, brother, for helping me out. (This took 5 minutes to write. Hope you like it.)

That's much appreciated, and I mean that sincerely. What game would you like to TAS? You mentioned VBA. I think you also mentioned Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (though I couldn't find that post). Someone else is already working on it, but you can practice it in the meantime. There's no one formula for TASing any game-- it all depends on the game. What game do you want to work on?

Posted: 1/15/2012 1:50 AM

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RakuRocRex

Joined: 1/13/2012
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I want to make Mario and Luigi because it's my best game. PM me on YouTube telling me how.

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 1:54 AM

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Bobo_the_King

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I'd rather just work with you here if that's okay. (I have a YouTube account, but for convoluted reasons, I can't log into it.) Do you have a copy of the ROM?

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:33 AM

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RakuRocRex

Joined: 1/13/2012
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Wait till tomorrow. I've got to go to bed. Good night.

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 7:37 AM

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Personman

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Raku: I'm sincerely impressed! Thanks for putting in the effort. TASing is hard, and will take a lot more patience and re-trying things than typing those sentences did, but if you stick with it, I'm sure one day you'll get an awesome video published on this site! Welcome aboard! ^__^

A warb degombs the brangy. Your gitch zanks and leils the warb.

Posted: 1/15/2012 1:31 PM

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RakuRocRex

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What's a rom?

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 1:45 PM

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Ilari

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RakuRocRex wrote:

What's a rom?

Console cartridges contain: * Some read only memory (permanent, contains the game code and data), * Some random access memory (also known as SRAM, for savegames) * Perhaps some extension chips (for special effects and such). For emulating a game: * One must have copy of Read Only Memory from cartridge. This is called ROM. * Most TASes start with Random access memory clear, so it is usually not needed. * Extension chips need to be emulated by the emulator itself.

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:05 PM

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RakuRocRex

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Yeah but what is memory? I don't know any of this stuff because my dad got it and told me it was called an emulator

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:08 PM

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moozooh

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A ROM is a file that represents a certain game cartridge. To play Super Mario Bros on a NES emulator FCEUX you will need to load a Super Mario Bros ROM (called "Super Mario Bros. (JU) [!].nes" or something like that) into it. Also, sharing these is illegal, so we can't distribute links to ROMs on the forums.

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:08 PM

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Randil

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In layman's terms, a "ROM" is a file containing a game. For example, the game "Super Mario Bros" for NES has a ROM file, and if you have this ROM file and a NES emulator (such as FCEUX) you can play Super Mario Bros on this emulator. Know that it's not allowed to ask for ROM links on this forum, nor is it allowed to link to ROM files or ROM sites. EDIT: Haha, moozooh made a post while I was writing this one, and it had almost the same content.

My own page on this site.

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:11 PM

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RakuRocRex

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But what's memory?

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:21 PM

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moozooh

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Something you use to remember other things.

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:35 PM

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RakuRocRex

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Ok, thanks. Now how to TAS with VBA 21?

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:38 PM

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moozooh

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Find a ROM of a game you want to TAS, load it into VBA. Make sure everything works as expected. Set up the controls and such. Try playing the game. Report here when you're done, and we'll discuss the next steps.

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/15/2012 2:55 PM

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RakuRocRex

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I already did all that.

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 3:23 PM

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moozooh

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Ok, then start recording (Tools -> Movie -> Record new movie). Save a state (Shift+F1 by default) before doing something, load a state (F1) if you didn't succeed. There, you're already TASing, and the movie you're recording will only contain the latest changes you make to the playthrough. The quality of your TAS is determined entirely by the standards you will set yourself. The more you will to go back and polish its inaccuracies, the smaller these inaccuracies are and the more new tricks you're willing to find, the better your TAS will be.

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/15/2012 3:42 PM

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RakuRocRex

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And set speed to 6%? (their saying stuff about slowdowns)

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 3:46 PM

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moozooh

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Try with something like 15%-25% first to get the feel of playing in slow motion, then move on to frame advance; that is, moving one frame at a time. It's more convenient than 6%, and more precise as well: it only advances when you want it to. Don't worry about inaccuracy, it's inevitable. Your job is to gradually minimize it until it isn't noticeable anymore, or until your tools are too inaccurate. At that point you should switch to more accurate tools.

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/15/2012 4:11 PM

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RakuRocRex

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But how to frame advance?

Raku hey guys lok wat i can do :D youtube.com/rakurocrex

Posted: 1/15/2012 4:22 PM

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moozooh

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Go to Options -> Input -> Customize all commands, set up the frame advance key in a way so that it's comfortable to press it when other keys are pressed (I prefer right ctrl; I press it with my thumb while the other fingers are on arrow keys). To use it, hold keys you would like to have pressed on the next frame and press frame advance once. What happens is that the emulator registers all the keys you have held as "pressed" on that frame. The result won't be immediately obvious, as many games won't react to the presses immediately (there is usually a lag of 1 to 4 frames), and some need certain keys to be held for several frames consecutively to properly execute the in-game action. At some point you will have to memorize or write down some of the simple sequences that give the desired result, such as: "hold jump for three frames to jump up a 16 pixel high block", "press fire every third frame to shoot as quickly as possible", etc.

Warp wrote: