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Posted: 3/2/2012 4:11 AM
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magus
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hi ! i bring some news, i m acctially in australia, travelling around and i don t have the time to finish my tas for now. maybe when i come back , i dont know when but between july and november, something like that. for the tas in genral i was on the next levels, seeing if i have to loose hearts, lives.. the main problem is stills the bosses who always make desync when i play it back. i have to manipulate a bit the boss without loosing to much time and to be shure its not desync.. i'm ok if someone want to continue my job, i think there is all you need here. i just want to be on the final videos for my newbie contibuion/experience if yo succed in finishing it. i already know that it could be better ( maby 200 frames ) cause of thoses motherf***** bosses :( cheers
Posted: 3/6/2012 9:54 AM
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magus
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some news 2.0. i will have a descent laptop soon ( normally ) and some free time... maybe i ll continue the tas. but im afraid that filesrv/megaupload n co are down now :( so i dont know if i could find my savesstates/wip for p-man. ( they are on my pc in france.. ) at least if a can't finish it now i'll finish it back in france. in this case i think i'll try to tas an other game in oz.. maby less dificult and without sync prob known.. i just need a game never tas on snes FTW !!!! or sms/gba something old.. even if im still a newbie i think i have train myslef enought to try new challanges, maybe a funny or bug exploit game.. what do you think about that?
Posted: 5/20/2012 3:32 PM
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Xarthok
Joined: 4/2/2007
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I found out that if you manage to collect 100 bones by Stage 4 you can purchase "Skip Stage" in the shop to save around 1 minute (minus time spent collecting bones) and another 100 bones by Stage 12 to save around 20 seconds, another in Stage 15 and 20. It's probably worth it! You can find more useful info here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/gba/524170-prehistorik-man/faqs/19287
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Posted: 6/8/2012 2:09 PM
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magus
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i've think about that, but to collect 100 bones i have to kill like 100 mobs, i dont know if its better from stage 1 to stage 4. it's a good idea for the rest. the main problem is that i'm now at stage 15, without 100 bones and skipping stage will desync me i have to check that too. im quite lazy to restart from the begening and the desync boss bug don't help me. maybe i can 'cut-paste' stages already done to save time.. i stop this job beacause i've tralled around australia for 6 months so i forget many of the things i learned about tas, i'm alone on my project and i'm pretty shure that i already made mistakes since now.. :( in an other hand i would be proud to finish it for some reason - never tased before - quite hard game if played normally - beeing posted on 88mph ( a french blog speaking about tas ^^ ) to resume i don't know what to do now
Posted: 6/8/2012 2:23 PM
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Xarthok
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http://www.twitch.tv/xarthok/b/319746973?t=18m48s here is my speedrun of the whole game done in 43 minutes (unoptimized) from it you can clearly see that my strategy for the first 4 stages is faster (the only reason why it's not faster than the TAS is the 3rd stage which i'm not so good in) so the best way to proceed, unfortunately, would be restarting it from the beginning. that is, if you want it to be as fast as possible. of course you can decide to do a "no-skips" but that would be a pretty arbitrary category in this case because the skips are only minor skips that skip a part of one stage each and require in-game currency so are features of normal play. but do as you wish :)
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Posted: 6/8/2012 2:32 PM
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magus
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yeah that's true. a good thing for me is that i know the 'main' way to run 14 stage for now. i check my videos and i realize that i'm not happy with it.. i have some bad souvenirs ( stage 3, 4, boss desync ) but restarting is the best option i think. i'll watch your speedrun( may help me ) and i think restarting is the best option. maybe the idea tu cut-paste stage will work ( in case i already have 100 bones before stages i've done ) [edit] ok bones packs will make the job correctly. i definitively have to restart..
Posted: 6/11/2012 7:21 PM
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magus
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it's getting faster than i thougth. i've finish stage 6 with the new weapon. i save like 3000 frames by skipping the level. i tought about the next skip, i think i'll loost more time to collect the 5 basket of bones than the time needed to finish the level normally, but i'll i need 100 bones for stage 15 of course.. i'll try to reach the 2nd boss toomorrow
Posted: 6/11/2012 7:35 PM
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Xarthok
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Yea about the stage 12 skip - I'm really not sure if it's faster. You might want to test it before continuing. To get the needed bones you gotta get 1-2 baskets off route above the checkpoint in the burnt tree stage. In stage 15 you do NOT need to skip because it's faster to finish the stage normally. Then you only need to have 100 bones in the middle of stage 20. Wanna post a WIP?
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Posted: 6/11/2012 11:05 PM
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magus
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i think i need a soft like youi have for speed run to compare times. i need the 5 basket. for the first one i have 'land' and i loost time. for the 3 others ine the burn forest i'll loose time. i'm calculating that but i think that quite the same. diamons st6 951 / st9 3451 / st12 3980 ( + around 100 for st8 i think ) bones st6 1097 / st9 around 4700 / st12 around 3180 i haven't tas them proprely but it was to have an idea.. i save about 800 i loose about 150+100+1300 ( ok let say this one is not good ) to be at 800 it's like 550 and i'm prety shure i can't clim + fall down from the tree + clim pick up the two other + go back in 550 frames. ok i just made simple not obtimised test but even if i save 1000 frames it let me like 750 in stage9 and it's still not possible i think ( about 12,5 sec ) what do you think?
Posted: 6/12/2012 2:16 PM
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magus
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ok 2nd boss kill, so i'm at the same point than before ! i save some sec on stage litle bit improverd. for the boss same desync problem so i manipulate him a bit to have spikes ( more regular, more damage ) and it works !
Posted: 6/12/2012 2:52 PM
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Xarthok
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OK so it seems that skip stage in stage 12 is not worth it :) Would like to see the WIP ;)
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Posted: 6/12/2012 2:54 PM
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magus
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ok i'm looking for a free host. i've copy/cut some stages too :) [ edit ] Prehistorik Man stage 15.smv here it is
Posted: 6/12/2012 2:56 PM
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Ilari
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magus wrote:
ok i'm looking for a free host. i've copy/cut some stages too :)
If it is .smv, use this one: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php
Posted: 6/13/2012 12:59 PM
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Xarthok
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Watched the WIP, looking great!
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Posted: 6/13/2012 1:25 PM
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magus
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i'm on crystal cave part 2, i think i find a fastest way for le escape from slimeville stage for you..
Posted: 6/13/2012 1:32 PM
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Xarthok
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Wanna upload the new WIP?:D
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Posted: 6/13/2012 2:05 PM
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magus
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i'm on it acctually :) p-man stage 15.smv
Posted: 6/13/2012 3:56 PM
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magus
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crystal caven done, pfiou hard level..
Posted: 6/13/2012 6:37 PM
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Xarthok
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In Crystal Caves 1, I think it's slower to wait for the bat to come from the topleft for the shortcut near the end, than to go a bit further to the right and jump to get one other bat to come lower to make a shortcut to the top possible. Or maybe it's even faster to go all the way to the right there and use the topright dinosaur to get to the topright ice block.
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Posted: 6/13/2012 9:19 PM
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magus
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i agree but my main proble here was the time needed to kill the guy on the way, and if i do like that i cant get the heart, i'm with 0 health and i die by tanking damage from the mob on the way, or on the spikes at the end. i think my way is the shortest with 3 hearts, can take the 4 one in stage 6 but i dont know about the time loose whant i take the damage on the way... it's about 50 frames between the two cases.. i made one mistake in crytal cavern 2 tanking one heart not really needed but i thought i need 2 heart for a big jump, i finish with one heart, but i'll need them in stage 21, so for me it worth it ! i'll continue like this, i'm used tu tasmovieeditor, so if a stage is reaaly not good i have the posibility to remade-copy/paste it. working on stage 20..
Posted: 6/14/2012 1:01 PM
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magus
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3rd boss down, ice waters is an easy level, i hope i'm on final boss tooday !
Posted: 6/14/2012 2:44 PM
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magus
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game finished !!!!! [edit] ok i have a 'the end' but i cant restart the game. my last input is on the boss ( last hit ). should i stop the movie at the credit end or on the boss? do you think i can post my smv/movie on this forum to have a chance to be publicated? and if yes, where it is? here is my final wip : Prehistorik man TAS complete.smv
Posted: 6/14/2012 3:16 PM
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Do you want to record a reset? If you want to finish your movie make sure that the last is the the last frame with input. Don't make your movie longer thann it should be. Then you can submit your movie.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:41 PM
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magus
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i just wanted to let the credit and ending. my last input is my last hit on the boss. i cant reset the credits. but for the movie it's better with a 'end' no? [ edit ] the 'last input version' Prehistorik Man last input vertion.smv
Posted: 6/14/2012 3:51 PM
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Xarthok
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In Crystal Caverns 2, is not faster to abuse death after pushing the first ice block down the shaft? Also was it not faster to ride a bat up the short shaft on the way to the last ice block? And abuse death after that, too? Overall, looks great! Excellent effort!
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