THE GLITCH USED IN THIS RUN REQUIRES A SAVEFILE WITH AN ALREADY-COMPLETE FILE ON ONE OF THE OTHER TWO FILES! THIS MOVIE TAKES PLACE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CURRENT STARFY TAS!
Game objectives
Emulator used: vba-v24m-svn422
New Game +
Fastest Time
YOLO
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This run starts from a savefile. It's the only way to do this kind of run, which could be considered "newgame+" or "glitched" or a combination of both. I would love to thank Cfox7, FaschZ, LightningWar91, SwordlessLink, Toufool31, and all the people who voted "Yes" for the DKR run for encouraging me to do this. ;)
An update: After some comments about this run being invalid due to the first file being mandatory, well, it's not. Here's a file showing that I could clear all saves, and this glitch would still work assuming I had played all the way to the last boss and saved there before.
Another update: Someone told me that this run is invalid because I've simply glitched it to load the first file. Well, not exactly. If you went through the credits, and went back to the file select screen, you'll see File 2 as complete:
Nach: This run does nothing more than show off a glitch. Showing off a glitch by itself is not enough to qualify publication.
If this run started the game from the very beginning and then proceeded to beat it, then this could be published as a kind of glitched run. But since the start is tainted, a movie like this best belongs in Game Resources.
This is a serious submission. It shows how you can glitch "File 2", which is a new game, into loading "File 1", which has already been beaten, to complete the game.
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Did you find this movie entertaining? - I most certainly did!
...but not in the classical sense.
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I don’t get it. the fuck is going on?
looks like you’re loading a file, quitting to main menù and… somehow are at the final boss? at its last hit even?
Looks like having a same feature with Swordless Link's: starting from a saved state and breaking the game.
Well, I'm now wondering what to say... I'll vote later.
So.
The glitch is that you can make it load from the wrong file?
Maybe you should chill a little and actually look at what the other run is doing instead of... this.
This is a serious submission. It shows how you can glitch "File 2", which is a new game, into loading "File 1", which has already been beaten, to complete the game.
Why this should be published from the people who inspired this run:
LightningWar91 wrote:
jlun2 wrote:
LightningWar91 wrote:
That was a thoughtful and stimulating post jlun.
DS Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (USA) in 03:42.93 by jlun2.
This game uses save corruption to beat the game in a few minutes, so nobody can use the arguement that the DKR run is not entertaining enough to be accepted.
That run's save file was created in the TAS, not outside of it.
Both cases are still save corruption.
This one's too! I know it's not exactly related, but who cares? You're doing it too!
LightningWar91 wrote:
So with that logic every Newgame+ TAS on this site now needs to add the time used to complete the first file.
With this logic, I've completed this game in less than a minute!
LightningWar91 wrote:
In a normal game, you have to beat the game in order to access Newgame+.
In DKR, you have to beat the main game to access a sort of "unintentional" Newgame+ by unlocking Tracks mode.
Again, the original save file does not affect the second file. Swordless is LOADING A NEW FILE, and beating the game using various tricks within the game's engine.
Me too! I've loaded "File 2", which was empty to begin with.
I didn't know it was drama Friday, oh well... something will come out of all this (DKR submission and this one I guess) but I can't recall if it's going to be good or bad
I have another update. Someone told me that this run is invalid because I've simply glitched it to load the first file. Well, not exactly. If you went through the credits, and went back to the file select screen, you'll see File 2 as complete:
Which kinda means the glitch actually beats the game AGAIN, instead of simply me loading the save file.
you still haven’t explained what happens…
all I understand is that you’re quitting to main menù right after starting a new game, then load back File 2, but for some reason you’re at the last boss
why are you there?
you still haven’t explained what happens…
all I understand is that you’re quitting to main menù right after starting a new game, then load back File 2, but for some reason you’re at the last boss
why are you there?
It's because the last time I saved was at the last boss (from the published movie). As long as I don't save anywhere else, the glitch would load me there.
…that sounds weird as hell
how can you even save right before the last hit of the final boss? what kind of saving system does this game have?
I would say that that’s just loading a save and normally beating the game, but for whatever reason File 2 gets completed instead… can you explain better
…that sounds weird as hell
how can you even save right before the last hit of the final boss? what kind of saving system does this game have?
I would say that that’s just loading a save and normally beating the game, but for whatever reason File 2 gets completed instead… can you explain better
The save system wasn't designed to save anywhere; pausing the game saves it, but under normal circumstances, after you reload the file, restarting the game doesn't allow you to have access to the save. It was supposed to be a temp save for taking a break irl.
From what I understand, by restarting midway at the next time you save, it messes up the game, making it load parts of the last time you saved along with the current glitched up save. So, that's why File 2 got completed instead of File 1, since the game still thinks you are using File 2, just that it loaded parts of the last save I've done into it.
For example:
Moe isn't supposed to be there, but with this glitch, I "merge" 2 rooms into 1.
so it’s basically save corruption… I have no idea what to vote
Suspend is a common feature found in other games (Castlevania having glitched runs thanks to it), can this thing be done in other games, or could suspend be glitched better in this game?
edit: I’m guessing you can’t suspend right after beating the final boss, so that you just had to glitch-load to finish the game?
Improvement of the published run all the way to the second last boss:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/4019940555379704
How'd it took that fast? Well, I've been trying all kinds of ways to improve it, after I received a PM from a Youtube user named Torchickens.
Torchickens found the address, 03000D84, which is responsible for what you talk to.
Value 20 is the 2nd last boss, and 21 is the final boss for the stage I'm on.
For the entire day, I've been trying to find a way to skip the 2nd last boss, but nothing nearby has an id of 21. So I instead focused on getting to the 2nd last boss quicker.
Oh, and I think the battle can be improved, since I noticed in the published run, some hits seem to be delayed by 1 frame. Which is where I'm stuck atm.
Moe isn't supposed to be there, but with this glitch, I "merge" 2 rooms into 1.
