I have a question for Mr. Grunz, what are the 3 ways to super swim? I'm thinking of beginning to TAS this game and want to know the possible ways to super swim, I only know one of them. not sure if this is the place to ask or not.
I have a question for Mr. Grunz, what are the 3 ways to super swim? I'm thinking of beginning to TAS this game and want to know the possible ways to super swim, I only know one of them. not sure if this is the place to ask or not.
You should check out www.zeldaspeedruns.com
I don't see anything about Super Swimming there, and I can't actually find anything that is up to date.
EDIT: I think I've figured out another way, is the spamming Z while holding forward one of the 3 ways? because I can do it as link as well. just not indefinitely. hoping for a quick response.
durring goronguy's 100% J run tonight, a debate came up about the difficultly of the postman heartpiece. Because the timer goes to the hundreths place, sometimes it is litterally impossible to stop right on 10:00.
Will someone please TAS this to see if it is even possible every time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiSJyBSkhw
I messed around with it on mupen for a bit and I was able to hit 10 exactly every time with frame advance. The problem with this is that it uses what input frame (1/60s) you input on instead of just visual frames (1/20s), so you only have 1/60 of a second to hit it. Oddly I wasn't ever able to get 9.99 or 10.01 like GoronGuy, it went from 9.98->10.00->10.02 every time for me.
Also tried on both 1.0 and 1.1 and it seems no different between each other.
I messed around with it on mupen for a bit and I was able to hit 10 exactly every time with frame advance. The problem with this is that it uses what input frame (1/60s) you input on instead of just visual frames (1/20s), so you only have 1/60 of a second to hit it. Oddly I wasn't ever able to get 9.99 or 10.01 like GoronGuy, it went from 9.98->10.00->10.02 every time for me.
Also tried on both 1.0 and 1.1 and it seems no different between each other.
What ZFG was saying during the run is that depending on what frame you start the timer it might not even give 00 as an option, that would explain why you couldn't get 99 or 01 like GG.
Though on that note, are there any n64 emulators that aren't complete shit? Preferably ones written in c++? I may be interested in implementing rerecording support in an n64 emulator, if there is any worth while.
Guess we should ask the devs if using the 1.6 source is allowed then... now that 2.0 is officially open source I don't think they'll have anything against it...
Guess we should ask the devs if using the 1.6 source is allowed then... now that 2.0 is officially open source I don't think they'll have anything against it...
If the whole thing is open source now, wouldn't 1.7 be the optimal version? To my knowledge, this was always regarded as superior to 1.6.
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There are no N64 emulators. Just SM64 emulators with hacky support for all the other games.
Guess we should ask the devs if using the 1.6 source is allowed then... now that 2.0 is officially open source I don't think they'll have anything against it...
Apparently there are some settings you can change in 2.0 to make oot play more like it did in 1.7/1.6 in terms of loading times. Scour through the comments on cosmo's youtube video for people's suggestions
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Shouldn't we compare PJ64 2.0 with an actual N64 console since seemingly the Wii VC loads the menu a lot faster.
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The point is that 2.0 is even faster than VC, which is even faster than an N64. So 2.0 will definatly be faster than N64. ;)
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Apparently there are some settings you can change in 2.0 to make oot play more like it did in 1.7/1.6 in terms of loading times. Scour through the comments on cosmo's youtube video for people's suggestions
Problem being that you can't depend on the emulator being accurate and you have to be able to depend on that. You can't just fine tune every game... well I guess you could, but that would be a huge hassle and probably produce a shitstorm on this site.
If the only difference in PJ2.0 vs N64 is lag, then wouldn't it be able to be console verified still? In the same way the SM64 TAS was console verified, even though mupen had different amounts of lag in different places, because the game only polled on input frames and so the TAS could be a stream of input frames.
If the only difference in PJ2.0 vs N64 is lag, then wouldn't it be able to be console verified still? In the same way the SM64 TAS was console verified, even though mupen had different amounts of lag in different places, because the game only polled on input frames and so the TAS could be a stream of input frames.
I will need to do some more tests, but I am fairly certain the N64 Zeldas poll at a constant rate even during lag frames, so verification is impossble unless the emulator is 100% accurate. Mario64 has a variable poll rate, which is why it syncs.
Guess we should ask the devs if using the 1.6 source is allowed then... now that 2.0 is officially open source I don't think they'll have anything against it...
If the whole thing is open source now, wouldn't 1.7 be the optimal version? To my knowledge, this was always regarded as superior to 1.6.
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I suppose it's worth asking for it though, considering that they released 2.0's source. Unless some member of the team quit whose work was in 1.7 and refuses to release it, I don't see why they can't send the 1.7 source.
Good news everyone. Reset recording of MM works well in bizhawk. So the current console route is actually tasable.
Also from what I can tell, bizhawk doesn't seem very desyncy with MM. But I haven't tested in laggy areas. Still, seems to be a step up from mupen.
So I started thinking about routes. I didn't get very far, but I thought I'd write down what I have so far, before I forget it:
Getting 99r in cycle one should be quite a bit faster than getting 99r in cycle 2 from the chest.
Banker transactions are 19s (putting in (10s) and withdrawing together (9s)) and most of the transition scenes in cycle one you have to take anyway to get magic.
Ofcourse another question would be if 99r are enough or if 200r like the old TAS used to get, wouldn't pay off in the long run. I haven't really tested it, but I don't think it would pay off.
There is no woodfall BK skip early in the 2nd cycle anymore, greatly reducing the explsoives needed.
For 200r (with big wallet) you would be over a minute just collecting and depositing the rupees. Maybe quite a bit more.
Also you could theoretically fill back up on chus after the bottle dupe.
So do that then do eggs, GBT, WFT and SHT in one go? Should be doable.
I doubt that the WFT giant CS skip would be worth it for a TAS.
So back to the moneys.
Would it be a good idea to get another 99r for cycle3 in cycle1, so 198r total? With this you wouldn't get the big wallet, so no extra cutscene.
So this would cost the 19s for depositing and withdrawing. But this time you would also have to figure in the extra scene transitions in cycle 1, since well they are extra. That's 4 extra transitions. Each transition is about 3s. So that's 12s extra, which brings you up to 31s. Let's say 32s to be sure.
Now getting the 100r chest in ect with the zora mask is pretty fast. But can it be done in under 32s (including the additional travel to and from ect). It's very close. But I don't think you'd need the zora mask right away otherwise, so this would probably add extra pauses, which should make this slower.
So I think in conclusion, from my guesstimation, the TAS should probably get 198r in cycle 1.
I would love for other people to look this over, or maybe even time it. Let's resurrect this thread. :)
