Posted: 7/21/2005 10:09 AM
Post subject: ChuChu Rocket!
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B'man
Joined: 7/21/2005
Posts: 3
Yeah, I know, far from the best game to make a TA speedrun with. I'm using this mainly to get used to organising a project since it's my first go at this, but assuming I complete it I'll still be submitting it. You never know, it might end up being interesting anyway. Anyhow, this is going to be a speedrun of the 100 original 1P Puzzle levels in CCR (1000 user-created levels... no thanks >_>). What I'm aiming for is to get a technically perfect overall time, give or take a few frames. Whether I add the Stage Challenges or not is something I'll decide when I come to it, as the Stage Challenges are a harder deal than the Puzzle levels (you big pussy, B'man...). But, to bidness. The point of my posting this now and not later (don't you just hate it when people promise something and have nothing to show?), is that I had a bit of a problem with the start. When recording or playing a movie, the game prompts to select a language. When not, it doesn't. Now, I'm pretty sure this is just because it doesn't use VBAs main save for the game, but all the same it'd be cool if one of you guys could test this out for me and verify it doesn't desync: http://www.w00ty.com/bman-chuchu%20-%20001.vbm ROM is "Chu Chu Rocket! (U)" (GBA ROM #0036).
Posted: 7/21/2005 4:17 PM
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Spacecow
He/Him
Joined: 6/21/2004
Posts: 247
Location: New Hampshire
It does not desync. This is an interesting idea. I'm not really sure how entertaining it'll be to watch, though, to be honest. I think the stage challenges actually would be a better choice than the puzzles, since the puzzles will be a couple frames of laying down tiles and then watching mice run around for a bit. Stage challenges would have continuous input and would be a lot more lively, even though it'd probably be a total bitch to optimize. (BTW, there's actually closer to 2500 user puzzles, not 1000. For some weird reason I felt the need to correct that. :P)
Posted: 7/22/2005 7:53 AM
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B'man
Joined: 7/21/2005
Posts: 3
Yeah, you're right; there's exactly 2500 (1 to 4 and A to Y for each with 25 in each group - 4*25*25 = 2500). Still not doing it... XD Anyway, I'll at least have a try at Stage Challenge, probably once I finish Normal mode on Puzzle. Edit: Bleh, I'll have to redo the 10 or so levels I already have done - I just realized that diagonal arrow movements take half the time that horizontal then vertical ones do - knocks nearly half a second off the time for Stage Challenge A1 >_> Speaking of the Stage Challenges, the D missions (100 Mice) should be fun to try and optimize, though E (Cat Soccer) and the Final Battle will likely be real bitches due to AI. -_- As you can probably guess, I have no experience at all in manipulating AI. Edit 2: Okeys, here's my notes on frames and whatnot. I have a bad habit of accidentally deleting, corrupting or losing my stuff >_>
Set Timings: 00442 Start/A on language select 00760 Start on Sonic Team logo 00823 Start on title screen 00827 First action on main menu Menus: Diagonals don't work on menus Directions and button presses can be immediately after one another (with the exception of repeat presses obviously - these require an emtpy frame) Timings: First action on stage select: 3 frames after Start/A on main menu First action (make stage title disappear) after stage select: press A 3 frames after Start/A on stage select First in-game command (Puzzle): 2 frames after stage title command First in-game command (Stage Challenge): 107 frames after stage title command First action on level completion: Start/A 3 frames before message appears. First action (stage title again) after completion: press A 4 frames afterwards In-game: Diagonals work (and are faster) for arrow movements A inserts UP, B inserts DOWN Pressing either button on an existing arrow swaps it clockwise * 9 frames between arrow movements 5 frames after arrow movement, can place arrow Second button press for arrow placement must be 2 frames (i.e. 1 empty) after first Press R to start mice immediately after last arrow placement (Puzzle) Press R 2 frames later to speed them up (Puzzle) * It's more hassle to change it to Pro mode for Stage Challenge (triggers insert Left and Right) since it doesn't waste any time using two button presses anyway. It takes about 12 more button presses to change it, not to mention the time wasted loading screens and saving the new options... Level Details (Puzzle Mode Normal): * locations of arrows ** steps to complete the stage *** possible routes, with arrow movement count for each route level 1 (G1) * (2 down, place DOWN) ** 00835 A 00837 Down 00846 Down 00850 A 00851 R 00853 R 01399 Start level 2 (H9) (4 up, 1 right, place DOWN) 01403 A 01405 Up + Right 01414 Up 01423 Up 01432 Up 01437 A 01438 R 01440 R 01801 Start level 3 (L8) (3 up, 4 right, place RIGHT) 01805 A 01807 Up+Right 01816 Up+Right 01825 Up+Right 01834 Right 01839 A4 01840 R1 01842 R2 02493 Start level 4 (H7, H8) (2 up, 1 right, place RIGHT, 1 up, place DOWN) (H7-H8 [3], H8-H7 [4]) *** 02498 A 02500 Up + Right 02509 Up 02514 A 02518 Up 02523 A 02524 R 02526 R 02781 Start (+255) level 5 (F1) (1 left, 4 down, place UP) 02785 A 02787 Left + Down 02796 Down 02805 Down 02814 Down 02819 A 02820 R 02822 R 03383 Start (+561) level 6 (E8) (2 left, 3 up, place LEFT) 03387 A 03389 Left + Up 03398 Left + Up 03407 Up 03416 Up 03421 A 03422 R 03424 R 04134 Start (+710) level 7 (C1) (4 left, 4 down, place UP) 04138 A 04140 Left + Down 04149 Left + Down 04158 Left + Down 04167 Left + Down 04172 A 04173 R 04175 R 04470 Start (+295) level 8 (D1) (3 left, 4 down, place RIGHT) 04572 A 04574 Left + Down 04583 Left + Down 04592 Left + Down 04610 Down 04615 A 04616 R 04618 R 0 Start level 9 (E8, I8) (2 left, 3 up, place LEFT, 4 right, place LEFT) (E8-I8 [7], I8-E8 [7]) 0 A 0 Left + Up 0 Left + Up 0 Up 0 A 0 Right 0 Right 0 Right 0 Right 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 10 (J2) (3 right, 3 down, place UP) 0 A 0 Right + Down 0 Right + Down 0 Right + Down 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 11 (F1, G9) (4 up, place LEFT, 8 down, 1 left, place RIGHT) (F1-G9 [12], G9-F1 [12]) 0 A 0 Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 B? 0 Down + Left 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 12 (E1) (2 left, 4 down, place UP) 0 A 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 13 (H1, I9, L8) (2 right, 4 up, place DOWN, 3 right, 1 down, place LEFT 4 left, 7 down, place UP) (H1-I9-L8 [15], H1-L8-I9 [14], I9-H1-L8 [19], I9-L8-H1 [14], L8-I9-H1 [16], L8-H1-I9 [20]) 0 A 0 Right + Up 0 Right + Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 B? 0 Right + Down 0 Right 0 Right 0 B? 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 Down 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 14 (I9) (2 right, 4 up, place DOWN) 0 A 0 Right + Up 0 Right + Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 15 (F8, G3) (2 down, place LEFT, 1 left, 5 up, place LEFT) (F8-G3 [8], G3-F8 [7]) 0 A 0 Down 0 Down 0 A 0 Left + Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 16 (L6) (5 right, 1 up, place LEFT) 0 A 0 Right + Up 0 Right 0 Right 0 Right 0 Right 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 17 (C4, G8) (3 up, place LEFT, 4 left, 4 down, place LEFT) (C4-G8 [8], G8-C4 [7]) 0 A 0 Up 0 Up 0 Up 0 A 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 Left + Down 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 18 (G5) (place UP) 0 A 0 A 0 R 0 R 0 Start level 19 (D9, F4) (1 left, 1 down, place RIGHT, 2 left, 5 up, place DOWN) (D9-F4 [9], F4-D9 [6]) A Left + Down A Left + Up Left + Up Up Up Up A R R Start level 20 (G6, K1) (1 up, place DOWN, 4 right, 5 down, place, UP) (G6-K1 [6], K1-G6 [9]) A Up B? Right + Down Right + Down Right + Down Right + Down Down A R R Start level 21 (B9, C3, C4) (4 left, 2 down, place UP, 1 up, place LEFT, 1 left, 5 up, place DOWN) (B9-C4-C3 [11], B9-C3-C4 [12], C4-C3-B9 [11], C4-B9-C3 [15], C3-C4-B9 [10], C3-B9-C4 [15]) A Left + Down Left + Down Left Left A Up A? A? Left + Up Up Up Up Up A R R Start level 22 (B9, I8) (2 right, 3 up, place DOWN, 7 left, 1 up, place DOWN) (B9-I8 [12], I8-B9 [10]) A Right + Up Right + Up Up A Left + Up Left Left Left Left Left Left A R R Start level 23 (E5) (2 left, place DOWN) A Left Left A R R Start level 24 (G5, I6) (place UP, 2 right, 1 up, place RIGHT) (G5-I6 [2], I6-G5 [4]) A A Right + Up Right A R R Start level 25 (F5, J8) (1 left, place UP, 4 right, 3 up, place RIGHT) (F5-J8 [5], J8-F5 [6]) A Left A Right + Up Right + Up Right + Up Right A R R Start?